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Okay, so we've had a few discussions on this very subject in the past, but it's been a while since out last one, so thought it a good time to bring it up again, along with some questions.

This stems from an article (several actually) in the newspaper today. There were two articles, one about a group of (I think ten) people, involved in some television show that were doing the show for sun, sea and sex. The second article was about a place in Crete, where there was an interview (or something) with some of the medical staff at various resorts. One doctor (or staff member) said how, during the summer, they easily give out 200+ morning after pills a day to people that come in asking for them after they've had a wild night out. 200 people per day? Seems seriously irresponsible.

Not to stereotype here, but I've taken into account that this is a gaming forum, and I think it's fair to say that most people here aren't necessarily the ones who are out and about, sleeping with a different person every other weekend. That's just a general observation; one that I could easily be wrong on.

There are obviously different people in today's world; each with their own view on the subject of sex. Some people wait until marriage, some people only have sex within relationships, some people will have sex with whoever they can, whenever they can. It's a modern world, and the opinions on the subject are vast. Some countries are very open with the topic, whilst others are very closed. In the modern world though, and in most countries that have members here, I'd say the general outlook on sex and sexual activity is a lot more publicised than it used to be, this is, in part, down to the media.

Now, whilst I can't ever rule out the probability of having a one night stand, my view on the subject is to keep such activities within a relationship. There are various reasons for that which I can share later if needs be. I should note here (for those that aren't aware of it; I'm sure some are) but (at 24) I've still yet to have a girlfriend or sex. The idea of having a one night stand (or several of them) doesn't really appeal to me right now, though I'd be lying if I said I didn't want a relationship.

I'm curious though, as to everyone else here. For those of you that are, alike me ~ are you looking for a relationship, or are you more than willing to sleep around, only you can't quite seem to get any interest? For those of you that sleep around, is that because you wish to do so, or because you can't hold a relationship down? I'd ask those who are in relationships, but for the most part, if you're in a relationship, it's probably because that is where you want to be. That being said, when you're not in a relationship, what are you like then?

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I think there is no right or wrong in these matters (well except for fringe cases like pedophilia, bestiality etc.). You have to figure it out for yourself (that's the fun part) and I'd say that in many cases the perspective changes with time.

Now let's see, where can I book a flight to Crete...

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If people want to sleep around that's their business. I might feel it's a bit foolish of them if they're not willing to have an abortion afterwards but -shrug- that's got more to do with their decision whether or not to breed than it has to do with their decision to have sex.

As for myself? No - I don't sleep around. Sex is very much a take it or leave it thing with me. There are better things I could be doing with my time. Then again I can't really be bothered with relationships either, I enjoy my own company and see no reason I'd want to have to take account of the needs and wants of some hanger-on.

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I don't care about other people's sex practices, but if you sleep around and don't take proper precautions, don't cry when you get pregnant or an STD.

As for me, I don't find hooking up appealing at all. It's just not for me. Literally all of my sex fantasies involve romance. Since, I am a serious romantic.

But, I am also that way about any kind of physical contact. I don't find makeout-hookups attractive either.

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Go out and have fun. If things go wrong rememberer that you have no one to blame but yourself. Don't expect me or anyone else to bail you out of your self made problems. If other people cast judgement on you for your actions you have no one to blame but your self. If you don't want other people to judge you then you need either keep your sexual adventures more of a secret or you need to be more discerning with your choice and number of partners.

I take chances as they come, but I prefer classy over trashy.

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How's that line go? I told her I only wanted a blowjob, and she replied, no problem, I only wanted a taste.

Casual sex is a good thing, sometimes, other times no. Especially so if you're some kind of romantic. In so far as life experiences go, it's up there on the list for best things to do.

Almost all human experiences, are vacuous, so why not have some fun with it. Just be smart and safe about it. Lest you end up leaving sooner than you planned, or having a litter of bastards.

Donnie Darko had it right with his discussion about smurfs.

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Sex is good.

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Crete's a holiday destination, and people on holiday like to have fun, and sex is generally pretty fun. There is nothing wrong with this at all, for either sex (gender).

People take sex way too seriously.

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Epic truth. They really do.

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Sex does tend to have some serious consequences...

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There are people in real life (and on these forums too...) who think of sex as if it's some sort of accomplishment. Really? I don't care if you do it, but just don't talk about it like you're some sort of god.:cort:

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To me sex is just sex, it is not as big a deal as people made out. I have no issue with sleeping about as long as it is safe etc. Even then if they choose not to that is their stupid mistake.

Society these days take sex far too seriously, especially with younger people (for obvious reasons). People make it an accomplishment, a big deal but when it comes down to it...it's just another thing you will do that day.

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I don't like sex all that much. It's exhausting. Honestly, a few years ago I used to be depressed that I'd never had a girlfriend or anything, but then I went to university and found out that I'm just... not that kind of person, I guess? Made the discovery that I hate being social, going out, meeting girls, having sex. Had a few girlfriends but every time I was with them I was just so bored. I'd rather have a few rounds of TF2 than have a few rounds of... Yeah.

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i got 3 kids and another on the way. Sex needs to be more limited if anything in my household.

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Convert to Catholicism, then you'll be an underachiever.

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That much I can believe. Chances of me turning into a raging sex addict once I've had my first time? :naughty:

in all seriousness though, I can appreciate that it would change with time, especially with younger generations. I would expect that many people in their 30's and 40's today had some fun in their youth, though have since settled down in a steady relationship.

:lulz:

This is something that (to a point) bugs me; that if I were to enter a relationship, I'd lose my individuality. I need only look at my parents for that. They're both happy, and I'd say still in love, but my Dad is clearly 'the bitch'. There are other concerns too; most of my friends that are in relationships (and those that have been in them, along with my brother) ~ their respective partners are their whole life. I've even lost a few friends because they've become involved in a relationship and dropped all their friends as a result. I wouldn't want to become like that.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I can appreciate people want to have fun, especially in such destinations. The problem that I specifically have is their ignorance of their own safety. If 200 girls a night are asking for the morning after pill, then that's roughly 200 girls a night that are having unprotected sex. Add the male counterparts to this, and you've potentially got 400 people who might now have an STI or STD, who are quite capable of passing it on to others when they return home.

:lulz: Reminds me of a friend of mine, he's in no way the stud he thought he used to be (he's grown up since those days) but I remember the conversations we used to have, and his reply of "well at least I've had sex" when he couldn't contribute to an argument or something. Quite lame. :nodding: Thankfully he's matured a little since then.

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my friend (ex) had sex for the first time as a sophmore (I was a senior at the time and still "clean"). He would never shut up about it. He would use it as a defense and general insult to me. Never bothered with me, Sex would just be the icing on life's (rather bland) cake.

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Deep down I believe that sex should only happen between two people that care deeply for each other. "Making love" I guess is what you can call it. It should bring a couple closer, make one another feel that they don't have to hide anything, feel completely comfortable and open sexually and mentally. And yes, I know that doesn't always seem to happen. I myself has had a one night stand three times, it was a time in my life I want to forget. I'm not going to sit here and blame the fact the I was flat ass drunk all three times, I was aware of what I was doing and I know they were also. I admit at the time I was lonely and depressed, it was after my divorce and I think I wanted to feel wanted in some way. But when it's all over you don't feel satisfied, you feel dirty and feel the exact same, or even worse. Perhaps there are people who just do that to get off, and that's it. I do find that hard to believe. I think everyone wants to have the certain person they can feel a real connection with.

Let's say you get pregnant or get someone pregnant during a one night stand. My view is you should of know that could possibly happen when you had sex with the person, and take the responsibility. I am highly against abortion, and if your not ready for a child even though you took the chance, I say give it up for adoption. There are so many women out the who cannot have children of their own. If you cannot love and care for the child yourself, someone else will.

As for STD, you went in also knowing that it could be a possibility, if it happens I'm sorry. Nothing really I can say about that.

Ending words: Not saying the person your having sex with has to be your wife, husband, boyfriend or girlfriend. What I mean is, it just should be someone you care for a lot. Though I would rather be in a couple with a person. Having sex with a close friend never ends well, believe me, someone will always get hurt.

I have much more to say one this subject, but I'll probably add more later, I feel like my words are going to start running together, lol.

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I am afraid that I disagree.

Sex can be whatever you make of it. If you are with somebody with whom you love it will probably be more special, like you mentioned. hell from experience I would say it is more 'special' as lame as that sounds.

But then sex can just be sex, can just be about pulling some random hot girl. If you don't want a relationship but would like to experience sex or just want to get laid I find there to be no issue. The only issue I find is more of a flaw, where either the woman or man will 'use' the other person, usually by knowing that the other person loves them/likes them etc and that the other person has no feelings towards them. I find that to be wrong. You are using somebody in its quite literall form.


I don't believe that for one second nobody realises the risk of having sex. Of course everyone who has sex will know that the woman has a chance to get pregnant. Both people know the risk and they still go ahead then they have both taken that risk and informally agreed to the consequences. If a girl gets pregnant well then it is down to them what they want to happen. I have no problem with abortion except when people almost 'abuse' it. If you are going around having unprotected sex willingly and knowingly. multiple times, then having abortions or getting the girl to get an abortion you are quite frankly sick, but I doubt there is 100 people in the world like that.

If 2 people have a one night stand and the girl ends up pregnant it is their decision what to do. After all, if they used protection it is clear they did not want a baby.

You know the possibility, you know the risk, it is your decision to take that risk.

Why? I understand your point of view but take me for example. I had a horrific break up with my ex. For the past 6 months I have wanted nothing serious, I just wanted to get back out their and get with some girls. Which I did, is there anything wrong with that? I don't want a relationship, the girls basically knew that it was just sex, nothing more. Is there something wrong with that? I did not want a commitment and am only just now started seeing somebody properly and even now am still a bit reluctant to make any commitment.

I see no wrong in that.

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People wanna go in having meaningless sex, well good for them. I though, think it should be more then that, you don't right on, meaningless sex ftw? But I'm 99.9 percent sure that not all and I didn't say every girl, but a few aren't going in for the meaningless sex. Well the guys I know will do anything to get laid and pretend to want something more when they really don't, they just wanna get off.

Gahh running outta time! Gotta go to work v.v Finish my replies later :3

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It still amuses me how guys that sleep around are labelled as studs, yet girls who do exactly the same thing, are labelled as sluts or whores. It's either one or the other in regards to the entire subject.

If you're a guy that sleeps around, you have no right to call a girl a slut, a whore, or any other word that relates. If you're a guy that does sleep around, you're doing nothing different from the women you're sleeping with (and those who sleep with you). Why are you any better than them for doing the same thing? Newsflash; you're not.

in regards to the point you made (Lusty Chan) about it being guys that want the sex, and do almost anything to get that sex, I have to disagree. On the whole, girls are just as bad a guys. No gender is any better than the other; if they were, there would be an odd ratio about the whole thing, and you'd have more sexually starved men (or women) roaming around for lack of a sexual partner. The difference between these men and women, is that the men tend to boast about their experiences more than women do; probably due to their self-proclaimed status of being a stud.

There is another subject that I missed earlier (on my initial post) though I believe some people here have commented on it (though not directly). Suffice to say; fuck buddies, or friends with benefits. Anyone here have such a relationship, or has anyone here had such a relationship in the past?

I only ask for curiosity of the complications. Obviously one night stands are just that; sex for one night, and you're probably never going to see that person again. These people who have special friends however, I foresee potential problems here. Sex (in no uncertain terms) is an emotional experience ~ at least to some degree, though it obviously means more to people who are connected. That being said, people who start out as just friends, and then extend that friendship, aren't they (or you) running the risk of getting attracted, thus eventually ending up in a relationship anyway? That, or you end up hating the situation because one of the two develops feelings, and the other doesn't.

Doesn't seem worth the risk?

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This has always bugged me as well. Another thing that bugs me is when girls call another girl a "slut" simply because they don't like her, or because they don't get along. Quite immature.

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If a guy has sex with 5 girls, he’s “the man” with his buds. A chic does it, she’s a slut. Is this fair? Fuck yea it is, and I’ll explain why. Being “the man” is not easy. Scoring with attractive women is not as easy as it sounds. A lot of effort has to be applied. One must be financially secure, charming, witty, well dressed, attitude, ect. A wide variety of variables all must be in alignment for it to be successful event. How difficult is it for a woman, and I mean ANY woman? Be it a slender fit chic, or a deuce and half with moles and a herpes outbreak? She just has to be there, and willing, someone will invariably come along and hit it.. So yeah, its completely fair. The differences between all of it, go back to the basics. Guys are the accelerators, and women are the brakes. The rules on promiscuity do not apply equally.

edit. As for fuck buddies. Been there and I actually find it preferable to a committed monogamy. Less complications, and the sex is for all intended purposes, consistently enjoyable. Whereas in relationships with boundaries things can become labored and monotonous over time. As for the emotional attachments. Those are subjective to the individual.

Years ago, I was with a girl in a committed relationship and she was really wonderful, or so I thought at the time. Oh and she was a skirt from head to toe. A real catch... Well, one day I had this undeniable suspicious that she was cheating on me, despite no real evidence of it. Pure gut instinct. I had abstained from pursuing interests in mutual female friends under our initial agreement of monogamy that we had from the get go, and this burned me. I felt betrayed. She could, and I wasn't allowed? I would have been amicable to an open relationship with considerations for safety ect, but she never even tried... She wanted more than she was willing to allow of me, fuck that. Well my suspicions, based purely on a gut instinct were enough for me to stand up while watching a movie one night, and order her to her feet, and to the front door. She was 5 months pregnant at the time, and the child was presumably mine. Yet, that didn't matter. I was robbed of my due rights to some "strange" for a long time, and that robbery didn't sit well with me. Especially considering some of the opportunities I passed up over the last year.

So then and there, I kicked her to the curb, figuratively speaking of course, and never once spoke another word to her. Well, almost a decade later, a sheriff showed up at my door in another city and served me with Child Support papers with debt in excess of 10k. I wasn't too surprised or worried. As I knew I would be, the following month I was exonerated thru DNA testing and to this day, as I understand from mutual friends. She never did ascertain who the father was, and the story ends. I'm very thankful I survived the whole ordeal without an incurable std or a child.

Ever single monogamous relationships I've been in, ended poorly, and oddly enough it's the casual one's I still get along with. Then again, maybe I'm just not a people person....

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All I will say is that don't bother if they are on psych meds. Having a person who does fun things with your fun stick to wanting their own fun stick in less than a month will turn you off to the idea of girls with mental issues forever.

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Love is often defined by its exclusion rather than by what it adds. Sure I want someone I can make a real connection with. But I don't think they're the only one. I'm not that pessimistic about all the other relationships I've got.

The problem is when people make connection and sex mean, more or less, the same thing. I suspect people want to simultaneously say that sex is special and maintain the idea of a relationship based on - 'purer' - values. Thus it's only good sex if it occurs in the context of those purer values -- the myth is born and programmed into you.

It seems unlikely that someone who's connected through interests and aesthetics will experience a world of change by slamming their crotches together. Who knows, it may even fuck it up for them if they go into it having built sex up into the holiest of holies.

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We're never going to agree on this, but I will allow you to humour me. :)

Most of these labels I can accept, but a woman isn't really going to care how financially secure a guy is if she is merely spending just the one night with him. How and why is that going to make any difference?

You're right, she does just have to be there at the right time, and if she gets the desired attention, she's off. That is if she's that kind of girl in the first place, otherwise the guy will be shown the door.

Just because a guy can, doesn't mean he should. Whilst it may be an achievement to a particular guy, having managed to bed a particular girl, that sure as hell doesn't make him any better in my eyes, I'm sorry, but if that guy is then going to walk around and call the girl a slut for sleeping with him, he should take a long look in the mirror. He's just slept about too. Same title applies.

This is circumstantial, and based only around the society you grow up in. Guys being the accelerators gives them no more reason to praise themselves for their deeds, and disapprove of the woman.

If men are sleeping around with these woman (which they are), then these guys know that they're sleeping with sluts (by their definition at least). It doesn't make a blind bit of difference to them before the actual 'achievement', only after does their view change. What does that say about the guy in question?

Hold up. You're paying for this child even though you don't actually know whether you're the Dad? That ain't right, surely?

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well, im more of the person who sleeps every weekend with another girl, and i do it by my own free will. I tend to get anxious about being in a relationship, maybe for because i am very social and independent and i don't want to be shackled by anyone OR be stuck with just one girl. Could be because i am afterall just 19 (soon 20), and i still need to experience different types of women before i can say which type is the one for me.

ps. The ego-boost of several one night stands is cool.

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Guess what it is for me?

YES! After the marriage!

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You’re right, poor people always get the best looking chics. Homeless guys too. The fancy car, clothes, ect. This materialistic stuff plays absolutely no role at all…

Trophy wives are myths too? Sexual conquest is the only real conquest of lasting significance. What sells everything we buy? How much T & A must you see before you see the connection? Sex can and does sell, just about everything. Part of that undeniable biological imperative, manipulated, weaponized and marketed. Everything else pales to sex appeal. Before I die, among the few things that will flash before my eyes, there be some very special women with whom I had the privilege of knowing, intimately. Everything else, the homes, cars, sights, travels, ect ect. Not nearly as memorable.

Sure they do, for all of the obvious reasons.

Did you even read the post? I was exonerated thru DNA testing. The child wasn’t mine and the order for child support was rendered null and void. The whole "exonerated" bit. She however, still doesn't know who the father is. Poor girl. I guess she should have been a bit more thrifty with her box.

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good replies, very good.

1) Very. True. It can be just as special as you want or WILD as you want, depends very much on how you take the situation. i personally prefer wild, spontaneous and unexpected sex. (you name the situation - shopping mall toilets to friends house or whatever. maybe for the thrill who knows)

2) its great you take it with such attitude. With experience you know what you want and aim for your own needs. im a selfish bastard i know and i got the attitude of "one life, enjoy it" -type of thing.

3) This i've done a couple of times and yes i do sometimes regret it, but hell, they were good.. but one thing i gotta say: even though what happens, (hopefully) both will enjoy this.. sexual intercourse. :lulz:

-Orchid

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Really? I find that surprising, mainly because I am a man.

Why were you doing all the work? I think that is the issue;)


Yeah not all girls do, not all guys do but some do and the ones who do have 'meaningless' sex should be allowed to do what they do happily and be accepted as long as nobody gets hurt etc.


I am having and have had experiences that are not as blunt as 'fuck buddies' but are along the same lines.

There is this one girl who I got with at a party (close friend of a mate) but then she got attached after meeting up only a few times and that mainly involved going out then sex. I thought I would be honest and tell her, obviously she was upset and still is and I do feel bad. Well, she is hot is the problem. I have 'cheated' on the current girl I am seeing (more on that in a second) with Flo and know that if I want any, I can easily go to her. yeah it is tempting but I feel bad cos she gets attached to people fast according to her friends.

At the moment I am seeing a girl who I get along with but it is a purely casual relationship and more 'sex on a weekly basis' that anything else. She is a lovely girl, have known her for a while and helped me out with my ex etc. (being friends with both of us). Problem now is that I am starting to develop feelings, I asked her about 'us' and she basically said she wants to keep it casual and see how it goes. That can either mean stay how it is or slowly get better. It is a shame because I am starting to get attached and she doesn't appear to be and I don't want to make a fuss over what she could see as nothing.
Anyway, the sex is good:cool:



HELL YEAH!

It is expected for men to make the first move, to be the charmer, to look good to the girl. Girls get to choose to a certain degree. If a girl wanted to she could easily pull somebody who is not as good looking at her if she put out, because that guy would be happy and settle for somebody who he would deem better looking. Look at most fo the 'slags' around your area and even celebrities. 8/10 of them are actually not that good looking but get it because they put out.

The term 'shes easy' is only for girls for a reason. You will never see a girl say "that guy is easy".

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A small example of the power women have, and the point I was making earlier.



Think it would work if men tried... End of story.

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You should know that isn't what I meant at all.

Nine out of Ten times, those that have a one night stand are going to be the result of a night out after drinking alcohol. The fancy car and clothes aren't going to play as much a factor (if any) at this point. Not to mention, most people would probably get a taxi back to wherever it is they're going.

This is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.

For obvious reasons, you, and those like you who sleep around are going to label yourself as studs. Those like me, and others who don't sleep around are going to label you and others that follow suit as sluts.

That's the harsh fact here, and one that isn't going to change. That isn't meant to sound offensive either, it's just a point of view.

In regards to the video you posted, that isn't relevant because its only a select view of a small number of people. If I wanted to prove a point, and asked random people their views on said subject, I'd edit the video to show only the views that I'd want others to see.

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I should have known? I’m sorry you’ve mistaken me for someone else. I didn’t attend Hogwarts, nor do I have potions that grant me absolute accurate interpretation of others statements. By my understanding, that’s exactly what you said. Albeit indirectly implied, nevertheless, it’s still there…

You sure you’re not being conservative there, and my what interesting statistics too. Where did you happen upon them?

The more you talk about this, the more I’m convinced that you have absolutely no experience whatsoever about that which you speak. Especially the pseudo statistical information, 9 out of 10... I also admire the attempt to narrow this discussion into the area of your choosing, one night stands. Some kind of ethical high ground perhaps? Must not forget, my statements concerned friends with benefits or “fuck buddies”.

Irrelevant too you perhaps, but not the topic at a hand.

I actually don’t sleep around and I don’t believe I said that I do either. I may have advocated friends with benefits, and recounted stories of decades ago, but openly stating that I sleep around. No...

Kudo’s on the cheap personal attack though, among other things...
Admirable behavior right, yet considering the medium, not to surprising...

I'll level with you. When I was released I had gone without sex for a great long time, and that was years ago. Even as free as I am now, I'm a recluse with no use for women or men, or society in general. I've probably got most priests beat, and I mean the legit one's too, forget about the child didllers.

I did however live once, when I was younger, saner, and freer... Which probably means my current opinions about this are extremely conservative when juxtaposed with the reality of things.

So, as long as we’re personalizing things. In my case, I had an excuse for celibacy. What's yours if you don't mind me asking... (though don't, because it's rhetorical and in all honesty I could care less.)

No worries. You can’t offend me.

That’s not relevant, that’s not relevant…. Sounds familiar...
By all means, continue parroting that sentiment while most of world rushes by, satiated & content. Well aware of the differences between what is, and what should be.

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Arguably our different attitudes towards sex are to a certain extent a function of our biology. Women have to invest six months in a child - a man, if he's not having much fun, maybe six minutes. Thus it makes sense for a man to go and sleep around - after all if he fucks twenty ugly birds it's not like he can't fuck a fit one tomorrow. While for a woman - well she's got to pick how to invest that resource.

This is also, I would imagine - to an extent, the motivation for cheating. A woman 'wants' to get the best genetic material from another father and trick the person she's got a formal relationship with into taking care of it. Whereas the man wants to spread his material around as far as possible.

And if you iterate that behaviour for hundreds of thousands of years before people get a hold of birth control then you get different parts of your brain wired up to the pleasure centres for different parts of the species. People who didn't like to have sex - or liked having it in the wrong contexts - were less successful as propagators of their pattern.

Heck, it may even explain why ugly, broken, or low self-worth women tend to be the sluts of the world.

There's definitely a function of the social context in there. Guys don't get known as The Man for sleeping with hookers a lot. If you do it that way it's not an achievement.

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The way I think of it, there are a few simple statements that I apply to sex.

1. Sex is just a pleasurable action between two (or more) consenting adults.
2. Making love and sex are two different things.
3. All parties must know whether you're having sex, or making love.
4. Actions have consequences.
5. As long as it's consensual, anything goes. (Parties must be adults and able to make proper decisions by themselves, so no children, sheep, horses or mentally handicapped.)
6. Don't shove someone's face in it, or if you do - expect to be called on it.

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Interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way before. But you're right, just calling it "sex" when it is with someone very special just doesn't seem right.

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It would be considered cheating. Not by monogamous standards, but by game standards.

Woman control sex. Figuratively speaking, they are the tree, men must climb. The post earlier about sex strikes is just a tiny example. Cut away all of the patriarchal nonsense and it‘s women who rule that domain, lest that challenge be overcome forcefully, but that doesn’t count. Like hookers, but far worse.

Take lipstick. Around for ten thousand years. Always with one color being sold and produced more than any other. Red. Why red? Well to mimic the labia minor of course. Clothing presented a significant challenge to non-verbal communications. What better way to advertise a “come hither” than mirror the effect on the only orifice visible? Desmond Morris popularized this in his bestselling book "The Naked Ape”. The word labia itself, translates to lips. Red lisptick emphasizes a resemblance between upper and lower labia, subversively advertising genitalia when the world wont allow the real thing..

Ever seen a baboon in heat? Note the similarities.

Secondary sexual characteristics are exploited too the max because they’re the only thing left. Anything less has been deemed immoral, or indecent. Now with men, there is little to emphasize. While women have saline tits implanted at record levels, and there’s always some new cream, topical ointment or surgical procedure in development for them, when it comes to men. It’s pretty much still the comb and deodorant standard.

If they ever organized with an agenda...

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I was talking specifically about one night stands following an alcohol fuelled night out. Granted I probably should have been more specific with my definition. But on the subject on alcohol-fuelled one night stands, little to none of the objects, other than physical appearance, are going to make any difference to the end result.

Like I've just mentioned, I was specifically on about alcohol-fuelled one night stands. Whilst I was basing my experience on these specific occasions though, it seems more likely this is where they'd take place (that's logically thinking, not statistically). I wouldn't have thought it all that common to meet a stranger in a Library or McDonalds only to end up in bed with them a few hours later, never to see them again. I'm sure it happens, but it wouldn't be all that common compared to the typical alcohol-fuelled occasions.

I've just explained this. Look up.

Discussions are all about various areas of the same subject. Excuse me for narrowing it down for a moment.

I know all about the topic; I was the one who started it.

In general, you're saying that it's okay for a guy to be labelled as a stud because it is a harder accomplishment for him to sleep with a girl. You've said also that it's okay to label girls as sluts because it's easy for them to have sex with a stranger, especially those who might not be deemed as the more attractive sort.

Not only do I find this arrogant, I also find it sexist. You're practically saying that Men are better than Women for practising in the same routine.

From my point of view, the two are the same. I wouldn't label a guy a stud, and a woman a slut if they're practising in the same game. They're either both sluts, both studs, or just generally both people. They shouldn't have, nor need a label.

Truth. I would apologise for my mistaking otherwise, but your current attitude doesn't seem to suggest that you'll care.

There are no personal attacks here though, that's just the thing. I've even clearly stated in my previous post that I haven't meant to offend anyone. You are the one who appears to have a problem with the discussion, or at least aspects of it. Your attitude, sarcasm and condescending remarks could be done without.

Rhetorical question or otherwise, if you'd read everything I've posted I've partially answered your rhetorical question already.

I'm glad.

Quite possibly the harsh truth.

Oddly enough, I happen to know of a fair number of fairly hot looking girls that sleep around.

I can't argue with that, but then I'd have thought it only desperate guys (who probably can't score elsewhere) that would pay someone to sleep with them, thus the stud-status wouldn't apply.

I can agree with this.

What about physically handicapped? We've all heard of the wheelbarrow position, what about the wheelchair? :naughty:

It happens: Women Withhold Sex to Rebuild Road in Colombia | Care2 Causes ~ Just need to see if it pays off. They've been going at it a whole month according to that article.

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Physical handicaps don't impede the mental process and your ability to make decisions. As long as that's not impaired, I see no problem with it. (Yes, this also means that I am against sleeping with people who are stoned/drunk off their ass so far they can't make a proper decision. Coherent choice is the most important aspect in what goes, and what doesn't.)

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:agreed

In my eyes you are 100% right. Women have control and use sex for that control. They know that we get major urges. They can go without for a considerable amount of time( I HAVE EXPERIENCED IT!!! WORST ARGUMENT EVER!).


Of course there is a difference.

I have never said "make love" in my life but hell a girl knows if it is just sex of if it means something as well. If I have a one night stand that girl would know it wasn't special.

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A sex strike would be a very bad thing for everyone in today's world. For starters there would be more rape because some men simply can't keep in their pants and it would weaken the morale of the strikers. I would also not be surprised if a sizeable portion of the population goes gay. The only person who would come out of a strike better off is the guy who invented the fleshlight.

However a sex strike will never happen. Women also enjoy sex, but they enjoy the attention of men even more. Many men don't see a point in giving women attention unless they got a shot at sex. You don't see men hitting up the nuns at the convent.

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There’s a simply saying even a child can comprehend that clears this up pretty well. I'm going to bold it for you so there's no mistakes, and you'll be able to easily and readily identify the statement, free and clear of any misunderstandings, umkay?

“A key that opens many locks is a master key, but if a lock is opened by lots of keys, then it's a shitty lock…”

Also, I looked into the statistical information you provided. What was it, 9 out of 10. Not surprisingly it has no basis in reality and is as far as I can tell, utter bullshit. Did you pull that one out of thin air? Perhaps that's why you failed to source or cite it. Poor form, surely you can do better. Though then again... Claims of "irrelevancy" seem to be your only fallback, so maybe not...

Now you may have no qualms with repeating yourself, nearly verbatim over and over again, but I refuse too. (Unless it's about religion) Given your failure to understanding or even recognize the most rudimentary concepts, laid out in various ways, from various people. Revel in this sad farce on your own. I'm thru with you until you parrot something new.

Ya know incidentally, and almost ironically. They say that 9 out 10 arguments are proven successful, however flawed and ineffective they are, provided they're repeated over and over and over again. You're well on your way, don't give up now.. (Actually I'm just kidding on that last bit. 9 out 10 lolz)

I don’t think it could actually work out on a large scale, with organized coordination or some kind of mass agenda. However it sure as hell gets lived out daily throughout the world. In the bedrooms of many, many homes. Withholding sex and sexual favors is a key factor for getting her way, eventually... Anyone with experience in a long term relationship can identify with that. With men, well they can't withhold very long, even with an agenda. Shit, sex is probably the underlying motive of most agendas held by men.

There's another saying that kinda fits here. "Nice guy's don't finish last, they finish in tissue."

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It was more a rhetorical question, but I do thank you for clearing it up for me. =p

Wow, aren't you mature and respectful. /sarcasm. Do you really need to act the prick?

I understand the statement perfectly, I just don't think it applies to men and women under these circumstances.

Oh you did? You wont mind sharing your finds with the rest of us then, will you? Just for clarification. Your big chance to put me in my place, and show the world that you are right with what you say. Can't disappoint now.

Saves on me having to read your condescending remarks.

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This thread seemed like it might have been interesting, but I've read it every day since it started and now the fun's wearing thin.

Metaphor related.

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Fuck anything that moves. Life is too short to be scared to do otherwise. I do it because it feels good.

Well, let me amend that first part. Fuck anything that moves that meets whatever your standard is. I don't care if 90 people tell me that fat chicks give better head, I don't want Shamu to "accidentally" decide to take a bite off the top.

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Orca? I hardly know her! Sorry, couldn't resist that one.