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Asheekay February 6th, 2011 09:50 AM

Re: Artificial Intelligence
 
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Originally Posted by jackripped (Post 5465277)
Its still arrogant to assume you have never been attacked by a virus.
Unless your a state of the art programmer/hacker/virus software writer, and very very rich fom it, its just plain arrogant to assume you are to good to ever get a virus.

So sorry l still dont believe him.........

You don't need to be sorry for not believing him. Plus, its your free choice to believe or not believe anyone/anything. However, my humble advice is to think outside the box and keep the possibility in the mind that your ideas and expectations could be wrong. If you start believing that you're always right, you'd never be able to learn anything new because thinking that you're always right means you believe you know everything and there's nothing left for you to learn/discover.

jackripped February 6th, 2011 11:22 AM

Re: Artificial Intelligence
 
l dont believe lm know all that much about it, so your presumption that l think lm right is basically wrong.

But all the independent scientists that put these documentries together, all agree that most virus's are undetectable. sorry l believe them.

Nemmerle February 6th, 2011 12:18 PM

Re: Artificial Intelligence
 
If the viruses are undetectable how do the scientists know about them?

Asheekay February 6th, 2011 12:50 PM

Re: Artificial Intelligence
 
Erm ... maybe they know it coz ... erm ... I just don't know dude. When HE says that they're undetectable then they're just undetectable and you should believe him without arguing coz obviously what HE says is right and any contradictory views are of course wrong. Period.

NuclearTurboPopeXVII February 6th, 2011 07:56 PM

Re: Artificial Intelligence
 
Jackripped must not know how to use google, since he can't seem to find actual sources to back up his vague claims.

jackripped February 7th, 2011 12:45 AM

Re: Artificial Intelligence
 
LOL drink more beer guys !
Sorry if l watch more documentries than you !

Raz0r February 7th, 2011 05:53 AM

Re: Artificial Intelligence
 
Sorry if I have an education and a passion for technology, and have a clue about what I'm on about.
I want to have an interesting debate/discussion about this, but I just can't with you.

On another note, the only possibility of a machine going rogue that I could imagine, would be a true random number generator, involving quantum mechanics and shit I don't even want to think about =p
In our current state of technology, I don't believe we're at risk of an artificial intelligence breaking the bounds we set for it. It just can't happen. Machines are built on logic, programmed with logic, and know nothing but logic and streams of binary we've told it to read/write previously..
EDIT: Not even self-modifying code is self-aware.
Interesting buzzword: Turing test.

NuclearTurboPopeXVII February 7th, 2011 01:53 PM

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Sorry if I cut out the middleman and read the blogs and websites of security researchers directly. Documentaries are for people seeking a casual understanding of something. By virtue of their very nature, a documentary must assume that the viewer is an idiot and doesn't know the first thing about network security, and must elevate the viewer's understanding from there. Compare that to a website or forum full of network security experts. There's a ton of prerequisite knowledge to even understand what they're taking about.

jackripped February 8th, 2011 02:17 AM

Re: Artificial Intelligence
 
Fair enough.

But how can you say it will never happen, what about 1000 years from now ?

Our systems change too, what about bio chips, and who knows what the future really holds with computors/programs.
Everyone here is talking mainly present or 50 years to the future, but what about 1000 years in the future ?
Can you be sure 100% it cant happen ? And how can someone assume that and stay openminded about the whole topic ?
l think its short sighted.

Schofield February 8th, 2011 03:51 PM

Re: Artificial Intelligence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jackripped (Post 5466054)
Fair enough.But how can you say it will never happen, what about 1000 years from now ?

:rofl:Oh that's so funny coming from you of all people...

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Originally Posted by jackripped (Post 5465679)
LOL drink more beer guys !
Sorry if l watch more documentries than you !

Are you kidding me?

Can we see a list of these documentaries you watch?


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