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Because no one cares that he's Muslim besides the complete idiots that only Glenn Beck listens too.

And Japan's, does that mean japan is Anti-Semitic, Anti-Zionist and Pro-Iran/Palestinians?


You've waited 30 years and the US has waited 50 on Korea, there is a obvious reason.

Turkey doesn't seem to care much, just Turkey's media does. Besides, Syria, Turkey and Iran hav pretty good living conditions, just Iran has a oppressive government.

Great. But you do realize you don't sound all that better then the religious retards screaming OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST, HE'S A RACIST, COMMUNIST AND DIRTY MUSLIM

Can you give some quotes please? Obama made some statements which sounded racist towards whites, but it wasn't really that racist, then again, he is half white, wait his Dad is Kenyan, so he has no Arabic blood.....

How?

Your an idiot. The USA is the #1 manufacturer of oil, thats why Russia is so important to Iran.

Why? Because one is a filthy arab muslim country and the other is just Korea? You can easily compared Iran and NK since they have similar statements, similar goals and similar threats, plus similar way of carrying them out, not doing anything.

Do you know anything about the NK vs. SK ordeal?

Have you ever heard of Ronald Reagan? Again, your forgetting the Nuclear Weapon count, Israel has 200, France has 200, China has 200 and NK has about 15, America has about 15,000 and Russia has about 20,000, so it makes sense to want less nukes.

I assume the US will get it first.

:rolleyes:

:rofl: If it wasn't for left wingers the US would not have attained the power status it has today.





It doesn't matter if 3000+ years ago it was your capital, that was 3,000+ years ago, you don't see Poland renaming itself Warsaw, do you?

Because of the shit in Pakistan oh :bawl:

There is nothing building up a war between the US and Russia, its just right wing idiots who wants one for no real reason at all.

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Did he? I've never heard him deny the fact.

Can you post proof of this?

To be honest, as long as it doesn't interfere with national policy, I couldn't care less if he believed green men from Mars kidnapped his wife.

Why aren't you allowed to say it?

That's because human civilization pretty much [b]is[/]b Western civilization. But going back to your argument; if Russia et al. do win a third world war, then why won't they have these "no-oil technologies" you're talking about? When Allies won WW2 they basically stripped Berlin dry of anything that had remote technological value. Why won't this happen again?

No, we haven't. The only good thing about your possession of nuclear weapons is that you haven't used them yet. You haven't acknowledged the existence of nuclear weapons. You haven't signed the non-proliferation treaty. In short, you haven't done a lot of the things that would go towards me trusting you with nukes.

Then why don't you blame Bush for not stopping the process? Why don't you blame Medvedev? Putin? Gorbachev? Clinton? Why specifically Obama?

And I admit that I haven't done a poll or anything, but I think that I would be hard pressed to find a significant proportion of the population that would not welcome a world where the knowledge to build a nuclear weapon did not exist.

I never realized you gave aid to Arab countries in the first place.

And I'm afraid I'm going to have to say there's too much bullshit here, again. I just can't cope.

So why is ideology relevant? There is no proof that even if Obama were all you claimed he was, that it has come through in his administration's policies. So why give him such a hard time about it?

I'd have to say, if it came down to it, there are a lot more of us than there are of you.

And then after that it wasn't any more. Honestly. It's like if you own a house, but then you default on your mortgage repayments, the bank repossesses it, then sells it off. You can't come back a few decades later and just repossess it again. The police would have you arrested.

And again, this has to do with nuclear weapons...how, exactly?

You mean, apart from the fact that they are both better off without a war?

It takes two people to disarm the US and Russia. Why don't you mention Medvedev in any of this? Why is Obama solely to blame?

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I disagree, I'm sure that people care about their president's ideology and religion.

What? I was talking about Obama's mission to create a West with no nukes, not about his anti-Semitism.

The reason is then left-wing, people who actually think that diplomacy can help when it comes to Islam / Communism.

I'm sure that Turkey will care, when Israeli war-jets will fly over Iran's nuclear factories and will destroy the Iranian nukes. Iran and Turkey are good friends. That's one of the reasons why Iran created the Hezbollah, and Turkey doesn't care about it.

I'm not saying that he's the anti-Christ, as I am Jewish and we don't believe in this. But he is a racist, socialist Muslim.

You want me to give you the anti-Semitic and the anti-white statments of Obama's priest? And whether he has Arab blood or not, he still is a pro-Arab anti-Israeli president, so it's not really his blood that counts, but his acts and ideology. If he tells me to stop building in my own capital, he's an anti-Semite, no matter what his race is.

He loses America's best fiends (Poland, India, Israel, others), just because he wants to have the Arabs on his side.

The US has its oil from Mexico and from the Arab countries. You cannot take someone's reasources and claim that you have producted them. Also, you sentence doesn't make any sense.

Iran is not an Arab country, they are Persians. And they are Muslims, not Communists, so their goals are different from Korea's. And their ways are not similar at all, you can't compare South Korea and Israel. North Korea doesn't tell the media how bad South Korea is. They want to attack them, but because of an ideology, not because they want to force their culture on SK. Iran wants to destroy Israel because of religion. These are not the same cases.

I know that they are enemies. One wants to destroy the other because one is Communist. That's why we don't want that one (North Korea) will have nukes. And if they have, we need to destroy them. Before the invasion to SK.

Why? You may want China to have less, but why do you want countries like Israel, France, and the US to lose the nukes? The US needs them so Russia won't attack them. Russia needs them so close countries won't attack it. Israel needs them so Israel's enemies (the Muslim countries) won't attack it, and France needs them because it's one of their protections. So why have less?

Whoever will win the WWIII, we can try to avoid it by not giving up any nukes.

I'm talking about the left-wing in Israel.

I meant, it was our capital FOR 3000+ years, when we had independence, lost it, and declared it by ourselves again. And since THERE WAS NO COUNTRY IN HERE, it is our capital. As I said, Jordan controled it, Jordan attacked us (because they thought that they are going to win), and Jordan lost it. And Jordan don't want it anymore. So it's fully ours.

Eretz Yisrael (the land of Israel) belongs to us, to the Jews, and we have every right to live here, in our homeland.

The US should not help Afganistan. Afganistan wants to destroy India. So the Indians have a pretty good reason to be angry, when the US help the Afgans. So Obama's helping policies towards Afganistan are harming the connection between the US and India.

The right-wing wants nukes, so the US could defend itself. The left-wing wants to leave the US with no protection. And the moment the US will become much weaker than Russia, there might be a war. And because of the left-wing, not only that the war will happen, but the left-wingers might also cause the US to lose the war. Without the nukes, Russia may consider a war, so it will be a pretty good reason to have nukes, even if just to avoid the war.

So you should start listening to him, you'll hear that he's exactly the anti-Semitic pro-Arab person I say he is.

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Try reading my wondeful topic "A religion of peace?" that I've posted in this forum. Really, it's a good one. I just gave up, as I saw how many lies people spread here.

But it does effect his policies.

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You'll understand...

Because the technologies may be destroyed. And no, most of the human civilization is not Western.

Well, Israel needs the nukes, so other countries will be more afraid of attacking us. Still, no one proved that we have nukes, and we have never said that we want to use them. Unlike Iran. Also, the Israeli army is much stronger than the Iranian, so it is unlikely that Israel will choose to use the nukes. Again, unlike Iran.

Because these presidents don't increase the process as much as Obama does.

And the population you're talking about doesn't know what's good for it.

We help those who are ready to recognize us (and we gave help to the Palestinians, even tough the Palestinian mission is to destroy us). The West should stop giving money to the Arab countries.

He stick his nose into Jerusalem, and he wants a Palestinian state. So he's ideology is pretty relevant.

Israel is an independent Jewish state. The Jewish Israelis decide about is the Israeli capital, not you.

We were forced to leave Jerusalem (tough some Jews didn't), and we the Jews came back into the Ottoman empire, that later became the British mandate, and have created and established everything in here by ourselves, and declared independence by ourselves without any help, so we do have the rights to this land.

It has to do with Obama's policies. Obama makes the US lose its friends.

Without the US, Russia may attack everyone and have full help from the Arabs, and control the US lands. Without Russia, the US may have more land, and will also fully control the world. So both countries might want to start a war, but don't do it because of the nukes.

Because he wants the whole Western world to lose its nukes, and, he have decided to do the latest big deal with the nukes, it wasn't Medvedev's idea. Also, I do think that it is also Medvedev's fault. But mostly Obama's.

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They care, but most people realize that it doesn't make a difference, well other then Glenn Beck and his supporters.

Exactly, they share similar goals, so they must have the same idealogy.

Sun Tzu, possibly the greatest military tactician of all time, and whose tactics were one of the reasons the Vietnamese won in Vietnam, said himself that war is a waste of resources, its always better if you take diplomacy. I mean look at Russia, obviously if you get a country to compete with you eventually one is going to crumble.

Thing is, your intruding over other countries, and I'm sure Iraq doesn't want any part in your shit.

That, and I don't recall Hezbollah attacking Turkey. Not to mention, lots of Western countries are good friends with Iran, like Switzerland.

No he's not.

You said he had Arab blood, and due to your blind and severe racism towards Arabs and Arab lovers it makes all the difference with arguing with you. Can you give me an example of how he did an action which was pro-Arab and anti-Israel? So far he hasn't gotten there yet.

No he hasn't, they'd be idiots to leave him, India is fine with the Americans and accept their support, they just want the info they think they are giving the Pakistanni's for their invasion of India.

I said manufacturer, you know, they make it so that it is usable and they distribute it.

Yes in fact North Korea does tell how bad America and South Korea is, its just everyone ignores them. Iran does not want to destroy Israel because of religion, of course you are there because of religion in the first place.

North Korea and Iran are on the same page, the only difference is that they have different idealogies, you ignore their anti-America and anti-(insert local hated country here) statements, hell they even deal arms with each other.


North Korea does have nukes.

Wow. My point was that America and Russia have waaaay too many nukes, much more then they need, so many it would destroy the world if they were all launched, so it would make sense if the two countries wanted to take down a couple thoasand nukes as Israel China and France have shown, you don't need that many.

Problem is that WWIII isn't very likely, I'll just sit back and watch Syria and Iran kick yo ass.

So they hate their own country?

So? That still means it was 2,000+ years ago that it was, it doesn't matter that you were their during Ancient times, you left, there is no such thing as a permanent homeland.

No the war is getting the US to go into Pakistan and help them out because the terrorist groups are crossing over to there, and Pakistan is deep enemies over India due to India's Imperialism.



Are you an idiot? Russia doesn't want a war with the US as much as the US wants a war with Russia, war is a waste of resources and should only be done in the direst of situations. Since 1990 US-Russia relations have been good, neither want a war.

Wow, half your links are heavily biased and don't know what they're talking about, the other half don't even say he's Muslim, just he went to a Catholic school in Indonesia first, then went to a Muslim school for two years. Their ancestrory makes no difference, hell it even said when Barack's dad met his mom he was a confirmed Atheist.

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Afghanistan is not Pakistan. They are separate countries. India is at odds with Pakistan.
This thread has gotten retarded. its beyond salvaging. Burn it and start anew.

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Your ideology does effect your actions. Ahmedinjad is a Muslim and he is Islamizing Iran. Stalin was a Communist and so were his actions. Obama hates Israel and that's how he acts (tells us to stop building in our capital). So of course it makes a difference.

Explain how your sentense has something to do with "What? I was talking about Obama's mission to create a West with no nukes, not about his anti-Semitism." Your answer is 100% not connected to what I have posted. You should raed my answers better.

Russia? What Russia? You mean the Russia that destroys whole villages (of Russians!) just because they feel like it, or the Russia where policemen are beyond the law?

My country Israel is not planning to invade to Iran, just to attack it. And these countries which are "good friends" with Iran, will pay for that later when Hezbollah will attack them. The Hezbollah are an international terror group, they might attack EVERY Western country. Well, they won't attack Turkey, as Tukey has turned into an Islamic country (and the Hezbollah are Muslims).

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And Switzerland is one of the most not objective countries (unlike their claims), remember what they did to Jews and to Jewish money that was in their banks during the holocaust? They still have lots of moneys to pay back to the state of Israel (that will give the money to holocaust survivers), for what they have done.

His "changes" in the US are pretty Socialist, he has Muslim past that even he can't deny, and he hates Israel, and reminds this to us everytime he meets us.

I wouldn't mention his Arab blood if he wasn't such a pro-Arab anti-Semitic president. He tells Jews not to live in the Jewish capital, he said that "the Palestinians are the most miserable people on Earth", he meets with Arab leaders pretty often, he left president Binyamin Netanyahu during their meeting, just to be with his family, and financially supports the Palestinians, he gives orders to Israel and tells the Jews what he thinks that they should do, then he goes to the Arabs and do exactly the same thing - he tells them what orders he gave to Israel and what in his opinion the Jews have to do (instead of giving orders to the Arabs). I can give you much more examples, but these are enough - you can't deny it, Obama is an anti-Semite.

It's not like anyone has any choice, Obama himself prefers to be dependent on Arab oil rather than to have friends in the Western civilization.

May be Obama and the US should try to help their friends, and not stick the nose into the oil countries. It's one thing that you want to have a war with a Muslim country, but at least don't be dependent on their oil.

First of all, we the Jews are here because of pure facts and history, not because of religion. This is our place, always was, and always will be. This is where our nation belongs, and since we build everything by ourselves and declared independence by ourselves on the land of our ansectors which was free of anyone's control (the Ottomans were destoyed and the British... recognized us, eventually), it is 100% our land.

Second, many other countries tell how bad the US is, but they don't do anything, unlike Iran, that actually tries to destroy Israel, and later the US. North Korea deals with local countries. Iran wants to destroy Israel, which is not a local country. Also, Iran is Muslim and NK is Communist, as much as crazy both are, they are also different. And the fact that they share weapons is just for now, they might as well to turn against each other eventually. Also, South Korea won't attack North Korea. Israel might attack Iran, and probably will. So again, they are not on the same map, as you claim.

North Korea should be stopped. By the US. And Iran should be stopped by Israel. Can't you see it?

I'm not sure about Russia and China, but the US and Israel MUST have nukes. It's one of our ways of survival, and I'm not sure we can without it.

I guess you'll be seeing a movie or something, because in reality Israel is much more stronger than Iran and Syria. Israel is the strongest in the Middle-East. If there will be a WWIII, Israel will be on the winning side.

Exactly.

First of all, not all Jews left. Second, we have a strong connection to this land, the land of our culture and nation. Third, we were forced to leave, not just "left". Fourth, we came back by ourselves and established everything here by ourselves, in a place where there was no country, so I can say that since 1880, it is a Jewish state. Tough we were recognized only in 1948. You can't question Israel's right to exist.

The US should support India more. Stop giving help to Pakistan.

It will all be different, the moment there won't be any nukes.

You can't know what's "biased" and what no.

I said Afghanistan instead of Pakistan? I've confused between two Muslim fanatic countries, which are close to each other geographically, and have almost the same name? Shame on me.

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:ditto::gpost::agreed



As for the simultanuous post of Mr. Alex:
Don't involve Turkey in this debate. Seriously don't, Jews live there peacefully. As Catholics. Protestants.... Orthodox churches.

Further, your country will NOT win WW III. No country wins in a war.

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Iran was always Muslim since they were converted, the country has the only Sharia-Democracy in the world. Besides, the President of Iran has no power.

Your not making any sense.

:lulz::lulz::lulz: If you believe that crap then your pretty much a indoctrinated statistic.

And Nazi Germany was the most powerful country in Europe. It doesn't matter how powerful you are, you are facing overwhelming odds.

Yah doesn't help when those Jews left Switzerland. Also, I doubt it was just the Jews, 5 million other people's were killed too.

What Socialist changes? Regulation of fucked up healthcare? He doesn't exactly hate Israel.

So just because someone supports the Palestinians they are an anti-Semite. My my what black and white world you live in.



No he doesn't.

IIRC he has expanded US oil in the US

History? Most of you left 2000+ years ago and now use the " we were here a long time ago!" excuse, I don't see Spain or the US trying to take over the Phillipines again, I don't see Germany trying to get Prussia back again, I don't see the Russians trying to get Manchuria back again, I don't see the British trying to get Australia or New Zealand back again etc.

South Korea will attack North Korea, problem is that North Korea is far more loonly then Iran and far more barbaric (if you see a satellite night photo of NK, the only light is coming from Kim Jong Il's house) and retarded.

I'll be waiting for you to do something then fail epiclly.

YOUR STILL MISSING THE POINT. THE GOAL ISN'T TO HAVE NO NUKES THE GOAL IS TO GET RID OF THE EXCESS NUKES THAT THE USA AND RUSSIA DON'T NEED.

And Nazi Germany is the most powerful country in Europe.

So the Fox news of Israel is the government?

I'm not, I'm just saying you can't use the bullshit excuse of "we were here before"

The US is neutral to the Indian-Pakistan conflict, it supports both nations since India has a huge economy and Pakistan contains many terrorists.

You can't?

Pakistan and Afghanistan are two different countries, and I'm sure they don't really care about Israel.

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I think this has gone on long enough.

One thing, though, Alex. Barack Hussein Obama has a black father and a white mother. He is as much white as he is black, making anti-white racism a bit difficult for him. Although one might argue a Muslim connection through his black father or his stepfather, one cannot argue an Arab connection through either of his parents.