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Nemmerle February 8th, 2010 11:39 AM

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Talking of people being buried alive I found this snippet recently that some of you might find interesting.
We were so angry with the prisoners that we didn't shoot them but, rather, decided to punish them severely.
"It will be a waste of bullets to shoot them," the lieutenant said. So we gave them shovels and demanded, at gunpoint, that they dig their own graves. We sat under the huts smoking marijuana and watched them dig in the rain. Each time they slowed down, we would shoot around them and they would resume digging faster. When they were done digging, we tied them and stabbed their legs with bayonets. Some of them screamed, and we laughed and kicked them to shut them up. We then rolled each man into his hole and covered him with the wet mud. All of them were frightened, and they tried to get up and out of the hole as we pushed the dirt back on them, but when they saw the tips of our guns pointed into the hole, they lay back and watched us with their pale sad eyes. They fought under the soil with all their might. I heard them groan underneath as they fought for air. Gradually, they gave up, and we walked away.
"At least they are buried," one of the soldiers said, and we laughed. I smiled a bit again as we walked back to the fire to warm ourselves.

—Ishmael Beah, A Long Way Gone: Memoirs of a Boy Soldier

Admiral Donutz February 8th, 2010 12:22 PM

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The lesson to that anekdote being that you better fight back, you may just win and get escape or atleast die rather quickly. Beats suffocating I bet.

Sadim-Al-Bouncer February 8th, 2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonelf68 (Post 5235303)
Islam extremist's. Just execute every single one of them. Treat them no different then they treat women.

There are radical followers of every religion, not just Islam.

Emperor Benedictine February 8th, 2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemmerle (Post 5235611)
A female's greatest value in a society with that sort of development level is to produce children.

I wouldn't say Turkey constituted an undeveloped society.

In theory this could happen in the UK as well, it's not like we haven't had honour killings here.

NiteStryker February 9th, 2010 06:24 PM

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Bad thing about places like this is, they dont think they are doing anything wrong. They still live in the stone ages and havent advanced as a civilization beyond pathetic tribal actions. You cant go in and upgrade their civilization. This was abhorrent by their primitive standards. Give them 500 years and they MIGHT have cobblestone roads.

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Originally Posted by KeNDaLL2000 (Post 5235304)
A father and grandfather caught their daughter chatting with boys when she was forbidden to. For punishment they buried her alive. When authorities found out the grandfather and father stated it was to save there honor.

Ah. Makes perfect sense. And a country caught a father and grandfather burying people alive for instinct urges, so they launched a tungsten rod from space and blew apart their villiage.


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Originally Posted by Anlushac11 (Post 5235461)
This is not a illness that will just go away, it is taught from birth by a fucked up system that needs to die.

More and more I want to bring down the moon on the middle east.

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Originally Posted by dinosaurJR (Post 5235584)
Also - it is generally ALWAYS the daughters that get punished, as they are perceived to be the weaker (morally) sex... they lead men astray with their evil ways... Didn't you guys know this?

I bet nothing happened to the guys who were talking to her, except they got cockblocked.

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Originally Posted by Dragonelf68 (Post 5235743)
Don't you mean Nitestryker?

I would love to push the red button and implode that part of the Earth into the core.

Miliciano February 10th, 2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anlushac11 (Post 5235461)
Hmmm Islamic family once again kills family member over a perceived slight to their honor.

Apparently a meeting of the either family elders or tribal elders decided her punishment.

Im sorry. I am not shocked or surprised to this.

This is not a illness that will just go away, it is taught from birth by a fucked up system that needs to die.

Religion in general does this. Not to point fingers, but history has shown Christians to be even more genocidal than Muslims (the crusades, persecution of jews, the holocaust). Hitler was a christian btw, he even asked one of his generals in the middle east to find proof of christ's existence.

Not saying Islam is good, but I think some of you are suggesting that Islam is a totally evil religion while Christianity seems to go unmentioned.

Miliciano February 10th, 2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tolga<3 (Post 5235476)
Who said anything about them being an 'Islamic' family? They're Eastern Turks, they care more for themselves than they do for the nation or Islam.

They're mountain Turks ffs what do you expect from such retards, they still live in a backward way of life and should be bitchslapped till death

I thinks thats more than a bit insulting. I recently found that I'm not from a turkic background (actually its mixed Basque and Kurdish), but even to a non turk it seems pretty insulting. Thats like saying all white people are racist snobs who are fat and read the bible everyday.

Crazy Wolf February 10th, 2010 06:01 PM

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I think it's more akin to calling people who live in the Southern USA a bunch of inbred behind-the-times retards. Still insulting, to be sure. Would it be a less tasteless remark if you didn't consider yourself part Turkish? Keep in mind the poster you're responding to is also Turkish.

NiteStryker February 10th, 2010 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Miliciano (Post 5238134)
Religion in general does this. Not to point fingers, but history has shown Christians to be even more genocidal than Muslims (the crusades,

Yes but as of late, the muslims are really catching up.

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Originally Posted by Miliciano (Post 5238134)
persecution of jews,

Everyone in all of history has persecuted the jews. Half the time it seems the jewish religion was created just to have something to hate.

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Originally Posted by Miliciano (Post 5238134)
the holocaust). Hitler was a christian btw, he even asked one of his generals in the middle east to find proof of christ's existence.

I dont think the holocaust can be attributed to "Christianity", more of "one guy really effing lost it and a bunch of people who were 'just following ore-dah's' ".

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Originally Posted by Miliciano (Post 5238134)
Not saying Islam is good, but I think some of you are suggesting that Islam is a totally evil religion while Christianity seems to go unmentioned.

I think both are totally moronic and should be eliminated, to be quite honest. More people have died by religiously-motivated violence than by anything else in the history of humanity.

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Originally Posted by Crazy Wolf (Post 5238167)
I think it's more akin to calling people who live in the Southern USA a bunch of inbred behind-the-times retards.

Truth hurts.

Stratopwn3r February 10th, 2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NiteStryker (Post 5237271)
Bad thing about places like this is, they dont think they are doing anything wrong. They still live in the stone ages and havent advanced as a civilization beyond pathetic tribal actions. You cant go in and upgrade their civilization. This was abhorrent by their primitive standards. Give them 500 years and they MIGHT have cobblestone roads.


Ah. Makes perfect sense. And a country caught a father and grandfather burying people alive for instinct urges, so they launched a tungsten rod from space and blew apart their villiage.



More and more I want to bring down the moon on the middle east.


I bet nothing happened to the guys who were talking to her, except they got cockblocked.


I would love to push the red button and implode that part of the Earth into the core.

I normally do not agree with you, but this is very correct IMO.

Even though this kind of stuff does not directly affect me. It pisses me off beyond belief. This whole "It was for the family" bullshit is at the same thought level as a fuckin primate. I firmly believe the grandfather and father should be killed the same way as the murder of the daughter. And the fuckskulls at the police station that did not do shit when she reported CHILD ABUSE should also be charged with something.


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