US making battleplans for Nuclear Iran

[Stratopwn3r]

Remember Operation Opera? Israel would shove the giant dildo of war straight up Iran's ass as soon as they get a hint they are anywhere close to a nuke.

[Nemmerle]

People overly fixate on nukes. If Israel attacks Iran it may well be getting into a fight it can't win, especially if Iran has other WMDs.

[Red Menace]

The worst best kept secret in the Middle East is the Israeli nuclear program...the Iranians are a lot of things but they aren't stupid. They won't play the WMD game with Israel, they know better.

I also don't really think Iran would use the bomb for more than political jockeying, like North Korea except with more influence on regional affairs. They like their cushy offices in Tehran just as much as any politicians, false prophets or not. The only thing I fear is an arms race developing in the Middle East among unstable governments (which more stable than others I still lump Iran into), as well as the ease of access and nuclear proliferation it will spur on as everyone tries to get the bomb and they don't care how they do it or who else finds out.


But it also doesn't surprise me the US has battle plans for nuclear Iran. I'm sure they had battle plans for Iran long before this, it makes good sense to have some sort of strategy on the table for any contingency within imagination. Hell, War Plan Red, the United States strategy in a war against the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth wasn't declassified until 1974. Probably because they now have another plan, just in case.

[Mr. Pedantic]

Iran gets nukes, and "accidentally" loses one, which happens to go off in Berlin or Paris or New York. Pure coincidence, of course.

More likely scenario, a nuke "accidentally" loses one, which surfaces a couple months later in the form of a big mushroom cloud in Berlin or Paris or New York.

I love how the US intel community "absolutely knew" Iraq had WMD's, and now they "absolutely know" that "Iran had discontinued its dedicated nuclear weapon efforts in 2003. ".

The US doesn't need to apply military force. I believe Israel is worried enough to do it first. After all, they live closer.

[Anlushac11]

At this point in time I would count on Iran having nukes.

Sanctions dont work when the word Sanctions also means lucrative market to whoever can get their goods into the country.

Israel isnt going to be able to do anything since despite promises, the word is that Russia has already started delivering part of the S300 anti aircraft missile system. That means manned attacks will be difficult and costly at best and RPV's and MRBM's are likely to get shot down.

[Admiral Donutz]

Originally Posted by NiteStryker

US making plans for Iran nuke strategy



Does anybody honestly think that Iran will get nuclear weapons? Not in this climate. Isreal will hit them before the US can even get bombers in the air.

Im not sure why "creating a strategy" is news. The US already has battleplans created for a war with any country on the planet. I guess they mean "post-invasion" this time...

I doubt they are trying to obtain nukes and if they do, I can't say I really care. They are not going to use them anyway (if any would do this rather unlikely move I'd gamble on North Korea but even they can't be that crazy unless perhaps they are invaded and drop a tactical nuke on a city or two to demand their enemy to lay down their arms). But as I said, I do't see any country actually going to use a nukle apart for politcal purposes ("we got a nuke so don't mess with us").

I'm not even too fond of nukes, not at all. Perhaps something could could even come for it and make Israel less dominant and lessen the "we don't gie a shit about those countrirs around us, they are evil, we are the victem here so we can get to build illegal settlements, basically control most infrastructure and all that".

[Nemmerle]

Originally Posted by Red Menace

The worst best kept secret in the Middle East is the Israeli nuclear program...the Iranians are a lot of things but they aren't stupid. They won't play the WMD game with Israel, they know better.

Yes, but the thing I wonder about is whether Israel does. You keep pushing someone into a corner sooner or later he's going to take a swing at you.

[Smitty025]

Originally Posted by NiteStryker

I'm not sure why "creating a strategy" is news. The US already has battleplans created for a war with any country on the planet. I guess they mean "post-invasion" this time...

It's not news, it was probably just a slow day and they needed to stir up some riveting and scary article to make more money.

You're right that there is already a plan to invade Iran, but that doesn't mean that the plan will be followed. General Zinni created a great plan for invading Iraq (Desert Crossing) and developed and tweaked it over his years as CENTCOM commander but it was completely ignored and Franks started from scratch creating the relatively horrible COBRA II. Desert crossing also addressed concerns for an occupation, something COBRA II ignored.

The merits of the plans are a different debate, but it goes to show that just because a well thought out and detailed plan exists, doesn't mean it will be even taken into consideration.


As for a nuclear armed Iran, I can't understand why they don't already have nuclear weapons. America is occupying countries on two sides, Israel has nuclear weapons and the inclination to use force against Iran, and other countries near them such as Pakistan and India have nuclear weapons. Would we as a nation allow ourselves to be surrounded by powerful enemies in this way without developing a deterrent? Why should we expect any other country to?

[Sadim-Al-Bouncer]

If one country shoots off its nukes, then everybody does. Then we're all screwed.

[NiteStryker]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

More likely scenario, a nuke "accidentally" loses one, which surfaces a couple months later in the form of a big mushroom cloud in Berlin or Paris or New York.

How is that different from what I said?

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

The US doesn't need to apply military force. I believe Israel is worried enough to do it first. After all, they live closer.

Yea, Iran wouldnt have the range to hit the continental US.

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

Sanctions dont work when the word Sanctions also means lucrative market to whoever can get their goods into the country.

Whoever came up with the concept of sanctions was a looser as a kid who thought he could apply being the last one picked for kickball into the politics of the world. He was stupid.