Make divorce illegal?

[NiteStryker]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

A lot of marriages don't take the traditional vows.

So what do they say? "Till an argument do you part"?

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

In any case, people can make mistakes, can't they?

Thats not an excuse. Im tired of hearing that. "Oh well Im only human and I make mistakes...thats why this is my 4th marriage".

That shit doesnt fly with me. None of this "people make mistakes". Once is MAYBE a mistake. Twice is stupidity.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

Ah. So divorce shouldn't be illegal then?

No. Getting married a second time should be.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

3 whole years...such a long time...

Ive outlasted every person I know who is married. And longer than many couples in the general population. How long have you been married?

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

That is their choice.

And I think they are retards for being legally allowed to make such a choice. Espically when there is kids involved.

[Nemmerle]

Originally Posted by NiteStryker

So what do they say? "Till an argument do you part"?

"As long as we both see fit," something of that description generally. Really depends on the individuals though, there's no legally set marriage vows - and convention varries a great deal, especially with religion being so unpopular.

[Mr. Pedantic]

So what do they say? "Till an argument do you part"?

Some couples don't take wedding vows, or if they do they say something they both agree will be doable for them. There aren't actual proper wedding vows that you have to take when you get married, so this is very much on the couple's discretion.

Thats not an excuse. Im tired of hearing that. "Oh well Im only human and I make mistakes...thats why this is my 4th marriage".

The mistake stops at 1. Everyone makes mistakes. Just the same as you can't be fired for just one mistake at a job (kind of...) you should be given another chance if you screw up here.

Ive outlasted every person I know who is married. And longer than many couples in the general population. How long have you been married?

You know the answer to that question, I'm sure. In any case, even if I were in a position to get married at the moment, I'm not sure I'd agree.

And I think they are retards for being legally allowed to make such a choice. Espically when there is kids involved.

Again, that is their choice. I wouldn't have thought you cared.

[NiteStryker]

Originally Posted by Nemmerle

"As long as we both see fit," something of that description generally.

Really the vows should say "until one of us finds someone better". Thats really the goal.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

Some couples don't take wedding vows, or if they do they say something they both agree will be doable for them. There aren't actual proper wedding vows that you have to take when you get married, so this is very much on the couple's discretion.

But thats the issue. Those of us that are happily "married", and those that get married and divorce 6 months later. It kinda tarnishes the meaning of "marriage". Its like if you say the word "fuck" too much. After awhile it looses its value and you need a new word.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

The mistake stops at 1. Everyone makes mistakes. Just the same as you can't be fired for just one mistake at a job (kind of...) you should be given another chance if you screw up here.

Yea but too many people are willing to enter into the commitment of marriage with divorce in the back pocket. "Well if things get tough or it doesnt work out we can always divorce". I dont think thats right.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

You know the answer to that question, I'm sure.

Yes. I do. So maybe we shouldnt talk shit on my 3 years then.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

Again, that is their choice. I wouldn't have thought you cared.

I usually dont give a shit about the parents. Hell, have a duel with pistols and 10 paces and put it on youtube. But once you have kids, I dont think you should be allowed to divorce. "Oh what if the father is a drunk wife beater"....well then the wife was stupid for marrying him and fucking him.

[Mr. Pedantic]

But thats the issue. Those of us that are happily "married", and those that get married and divorce 6 months later. It kinda tarnishes the meaning of "marriage". Its like if you say the word "fuck" too much. After awhile it looses its value and you need a new word.

I'm not quite sure why you have to compare yourself to everyone else, though. If you are happy in your relationship, then that's fine. Other people's problems aren't yours. So why do you have to make yourself care about them?

Yes. I do. So maybe we shouldnt talk shit on my 3 years then.

Well, I'm just saying there are lots of people with longer marriages out there. Though to be honest, most younger couples are having longer engagements and just living together, making sure it feels right, before they marry.

I usually dont give a shit about the parents. Hell, have a duel with pistols and 10 paces and put it on youtube. But once you have kids, I dont think you should be allowed to divorce. "Oh what if the father is a drunk wife beater"....well then the wife was stupid for marrying him and fucking him.

Aww. How nice to see you have a soft side.

And just so you know, a lot of men change the way they act once they get married. They realize that what they've gotten themselves into is a life-long commitment, and it starts to weigh on them, so they start blaming the wife for "forcing" them into the situation they're in, and they start taking it out on the wife/children. It still doesn't excuse the couple for being so hasty about it and not thinking it through properly, but it's not all the wife's fault.

[NiteStryker]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

I'm not quite sure why you have to compare yourself to everyone else, though. If you are happy in your relationship, then that's fine. Other people's problems aren't yours. So why do you have to make yourself care about them?

I dont "have" to, but it just screws it up for the rest of us in a way.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

Well, I'm just saying there are lots of people with longer marriages out there.

And I dont disagree with that statement. Im sayin that people dont really seem to realize (or they dont care) that marriage is supposed to be a permanent mature, responsible decision, and people dont treat it as such. They see it as a next step in the dating life.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

Though to be honest, most younger couples are having longer engagements and just living together, making sure it feels right, before they marry.

I never did that, but I dont look bad upon people who do. Stupid to wait until marriage to find out how someone lives if you are spending the rest of your life (supposedly) with them.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

Aww. How nice to see you have a soft side.

Dont get excited, I need the kids to have a stable home so that when I kill their parents I will have competent slaves.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pedantic

And just so you know, a lot of men change the way they act once they get married. They realize that what they've gotten themselves into is a life-long commitment, and it starts to weigh on them, so they start blaming the wife for "forcing" them into the situation they're in, and they start taking it out on the wife/children. It still doesn't excuse the couple for being so hasty about it and not thinking it through properly, but it's not all the wife's fault.

Oh believe me....the wife will drive you insane.

Let my wife try and talk to me about shoe shopping while im playing flashpoint 2.

[Stratopwn3r]

Originally Posted by NiteStryker

No. You take a vow saying "till death do you part". So really, from a non-religious standpoint, you should only get 1 shot. Otherwise its not really "marriage". You get 1 marriage, and you get 1 divorce, and after that you shouldnt be allowed to get married.

People treat marriage nowadays as another step in dating. I got married when I was 19 and Im a few days short of 22, still happily married. I know people that got married when I did, and are divorced with kids already. Im like "really? Wtf is wrong with you?".

Me and my wife already agreed, no kids before 27.

But I think its bullcrap that some people getting married 2, 3, 4 times.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

[Phoenix_22]

Originally Posted by NiteStryker

No. You take a vow saying "till death do you part". So really, from a non-religious standpoint, you should only get 1 shot. Otherwise its not really "marriage". You get 1 marriage, and you get 1 divorce, and after that you shouldnt be allowed to get married.

People treat marriage nowadays as another step in dating. I got married when I was 19 and Im a few days short of 22, still happily married. I know people that got married when I did, and are divorced with kids already. Im like "really? Wtf is wrong with you?".

But I think its bullcrap that some people getting married 2, 3, 4 times.

Nite, c'mon, how is someone getting married a second time a bad thing? It might get progressively worse as the number goes up, but I don't think there is anything wrong with getting married a second or maybe even third time. Hell, the spouse could be killed, what happens when 20 years down the road the surviving spouse meets someone who they want to marry?

People might jump into getting married, but can you blame them? Tax breaks, you get to say you are married, etc. There is such a taboo about people dating for anything past 5 years that if they don't get married, people wonder what the hell their problem is. Sure, the word "marriage" is hyped up and people more often than not rush into it, but the benefits of doing so almost make it worth it to do so and later get divorced, even with a prenup.

[Stratopwn3r]

Originally Posted by Phoenix_22

Nite, c'mon, how is someone getting married a second time a bad thing? It might get progressively worse as the number goes up, but I don't think there is anything wrong with getting married a second or maybe even third time. Hell, the spouse could be killed, what happens when 20 years down the road the surviving spouse meets someone who they want to marry?

You have one soulmate, not a bucketful of them.

[Phoenix_22]

Originally Posted by Stratopwn3r

You have one soulmate, not a bucketful of them.

Why do you have to marry that one soulmate? There's what, 6 billion people in the world, how do you know there's only one person out of all of them you are supposed to marry?