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Alright, so I guess Im sold on the idea of legalizing pot.

Never having smoked it and never having a desire to, I'll say why I have changed my stance on this.

There is really no reason to not have it legalized without making alcohol illegal as well. Alcohol has way more dangerous affects and more stupid shit is done under the influence of alcohol.

So, if alcohol is legal, it kinda doesnt make sense to have pot be the opposite.

Now, I do believe in putting the same types of restrictions as alcohol has. No smoking near schools, must be 18 or 21 to buy, cant drive under influence. The only hurdle I see is there is no "breathalyzer", so to speak, for pot.

But otherwise, legalize it and tax the shit, make some money off it. The Feds said today they wont go after medical pot anymore. There are several measures going thru legislation in the California government to legalize it. The only thing I see bad is all the stupid stoners are going to come here just for pot and I will have to start hurting people.
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Wait, wait, wait. You're changing your stance on something? This is a startling development.

At any rate the reasons you've cited are essentially the ones I've been putting forward for quite awhile, and others even longer. The one issue is taxing it. You can pretty easily grow your own weed, so it would be hard to regulate and tax it effectively. However I think it woulds till be easier to regulate it then it would be to try to control it by keeping it illegal. It would also lift a huge burden off of the prison and law systems, and free up resources to finding and prosecuting actual criminals.
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The only hurdle I see is there is no "breathalyzer", so to speak, for pot.
I think any half-witted cop would be capable of spotting (or smelling) that stuff from a mile away. It's a lot harder to keep under wraps than small amounts of alcohol.

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The only hurdle I see is there is no "breathalyzer", so to speak, for pot.
Dangle a Twinkie in front of them. If they go crazy for it either they are high or love Twinkies. Either reason is good enough for an arrest

Legalize it and tax it like tobacco. I bet even after all the tax the government would want that it would be cheaper than it is currently. You would also have a more consistent quality of weed that you know to be pure and not mixed with coke/heroin/pcp.
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Well, this should make my buddy Jeffro a little happy.
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Alright, so I guess Im sold on the idea of legalizing pot.

Never having smoked it and never having a desire to, I'll say why I have changed my stance on this.

There is really no reason to not have it legalized without making alcohol illegal as well. Alcohol has way more dangerous affects and more stupid shit is done under the influence of alcohol.

So, if alcohol is legal, it kinda doesnt make sense to have pot be the opposite.

Now, I do believe in putting the same types of restrictions as alcohol has. No smoking near schools, must be 18 or 21 to buy, cant drive under influence. The only hurdle I see is there is no "breathalyzer", so to speak, for pot.

But otherwise, legalize it and tax the shit, make some money off it. The Feds said today they wont go after medical pot anymore. There are several measures going thru legislation in the California government to legalize it. The only thing I see bad is all the stupid stoners are going to come here just for pot and I will have to start hurting people.
What the hell, what's wrong with you?! You... changed your mind?

Didn't see that comming, hehe. But I agree, aslong as alcohol and smoking are allowed (and taxed) you should allow pot (well any softdrugs really: joints, magic mushroms). drugs can be tested through blood/urine tests, and overhere they recently bought an appratus for the police that can detect drugs by taking a saliva sample. It's not as accurate as a blood/urine tests, but if the apparatus flags a warning (detects an estimated amount of drugs) a more accurate test can be done at the police station.
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the ONLY _practical_ reason I can think of that those against the legalization of marijuana and have no objection to alcohol being legal is the second hand effect from the smoke of the joint. With alcohol, it's ingested so those around them will not be affected by the ingredients. Smoking however, by it's name, gives a cloud of smoke that others can be affected by. "Contact High" is the term normally used for it.

However if we used roughly the same rules as we do for alcohol in this country only those smoking it would be affected as you could only smoke it at home, or in 'bars', etc..
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the ONLY _practical_ reason I can think of that those against the legalization of marijuana and have no objection to alcohol being legal is the second hand effect from the smoke of the joint. With alcohol, it's ingested so those around them will not be affected by the ingredients. Smoking however, by it's name, gives a cloud of smoke that others can be affected by. "Contact High" is the term normally used for it.

However if we used roughly the same rules as we do for alcohol in this country only those smoking it would be affected as you could only smoke it at home, or in 'bars', etc..
Threat it as something between drinking and smoking: slap the same laws as smoking on it (and drinking laws such as don't do drugs and drive) and there should be no problem except for hypocrits that support drinking (and all the fun & risks it's effects have) and smoking (and all the fun & risks/negative effects like second hand smoking and the bad smell).
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The second hand effects of alcohol are black eyes, damaged property, and early morning regrets...
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I'm all for it. We allow alcohol, cigarettes, and prescription drugs to be consumed on a daily basis when there is a little plant that can have the same effect of alleviating stress but is a lot less harmful to the self and to society.

I've never done pot either, but I have friends who do and I don't see anything wrong with it. If someone wants to turn to a drug to relax, I rather it be that than alcohol, cigarettes, or prescription drugs.

Besides, if it was legalized, there is definitely some money to be made from it, and I wonder if doing so would have any impact on the drug trade.
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