[Controversial] FDA bans all flavored cigarettes

[Jeffro]

These same pious fucks who grumble about how the cigarette industry sells flavored tobacco hasn't said a peep about how Budweiser and/or Miller is hawked at every conceivable angle in baseball stadiums across the nation. Is this the same FDA that legalized the use of the lethal Fen-phen? Fuck em.

[Anlushac11]

I dont think the US will outlaw tobacco or alcohol due to what happened during Prohibition and when taxes were applied to tobacco.

The US doesnt need more Al Capone's.

[AlDaja]

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

I drink Diet Coke and used to drink Coke for years.

It takes about a week for your taste buds to get acclimated to Diet Coke. An old girlfriend got me switched by drinking Diet Slice soda (similar to Sprite) and after about a week I was OK.

Now regular Coke usually tastes sweet and syrupy to me and sometimes I have a hard time telling which is which.

Ergo maybe electronic cigs are not that bad once you get used to them.

I also read something recently where the FDA said electronic cigs are not any better for you than tobacco. Something about the "smoke" they put out is still a carcinogen.

Like breathing the shit factories pump into the air and drinking water contaminated with chemicals is any better.

Coke and Pepsi are in the process of switching out it's artificial sweeter (Splenda) with steviva (leaf of a plant that grows in Paraguay) because of the Johnson and Johnson ruling. On the stand the FDA dude admitted that they don't know what happens to the human body when two different type of zero calorie sweeteners are mixed. The law suit sprang about because of, as Jeffro would say, "over consumptive twats" literally OD on the sh't. Excessive quantities or apparently mixing sweeteners over a period of time creates cancerous tumors and such in the GI track, bladder and rectum in addition to interfering with many forms of medication and can lead to neurological and/or lymphatic issues with people who lack a sufficient amino acid (aka people who suffer from skin ailments like psoriasis or eczema). The ruling agreement required J&J to remove the "tastes like sugar, because it's made from sugar" and pay a crap load of money to the defendants. In exchange J&J was able to have the case sealed and continue to sell it's product. Needless to say I have stopped using it and just went back to using sugar (which apparently will kill me too) and honey (assuming I can afford it, as the price bounces up and down).

[Pethegreat]

You should be a lot more worried about the crap that cars and industry spew into the air we breathe, rather than a few seconds of highly dispersed second-hand smoke.

But smoking produces carbon dioxide which is a major component of GLOBAL WARMING!

I assume this does not apply to hookahs? If this does then you may as well say goodbye to hookah bars.

I don't have much of a problem with smoking. My parents smoke, and so do many people I know. The only places I have a problem with people smoking are my own personal spaces, my room, my car, ect. I kind of liked the flavored cigarettes since they smelled less offensive than the normal kind.

[Nemmerle]

Breaking the law becomes a kind of trivial thing when you can do it simply by having/selling the wrong kind of cig.

"That guy's a criminal!"

"... And?"

People make a mockery of the law and then they're amazed when it blows up in their faces.

[Octovon]

Originally Posted by Pethegreat

But smoking produces carbon dioxide which is a major component of GLOBAL WARMING!

Global warming encourages tree-growth in some areas of the world.

I smoke cigarettes (the real kind, not the fruity flavoured kind) and the only thing I don't like about it is the smell it leaves on my clothes (which is why I have a smoking jacket). I don't really care what others think of my habit, but I do keep my space from others, and don't smoke around children. I do agree with banning flavoured cigarettes, I can understand how they can be viewed as a "gateway" to smoking cigarettes (wasn't how I started, I got started through inebriated smoking). I certainly do not encourage others to start smoking, its such an addictive habit.

[-=[Ranek]=-]

Originally Posted by Warforger

There getting closer to just banning them all together, I mean seriously we banned marijuana because its evil, but tobacco is different.

Please explain, what makes weed SO much worse than Cigarettes, to the extent, one can get you sent to prison, and the other is perfectly legal.

[NiteStryker]

Originally Posted by Afterburner

Smoking is indeed bad for YOU which is why it should be YOU and not the government who gets to decide whether or not to smoke, and what to smoke.

I could relate that to our current public healthcare system right now. By the government allowing cigerettes to be sold they are increasing costs that it takes to provide public healthcare, as habitual smokers develop many more health problems early in life.

[TodtheWraith]

Originally Posted by Warforger

There getting closer to just banning them all together, I mean seriously we banned marijuana because its evil, but tobacco is different.

Yes, marijuana is evil. It will fight you at the drop of a hat. It will violate your daughter. It will mug you for your shoes. It will tell your friend you slept with his wife. It pretended to be God whispering in former-President Bush Jr.'s ear. It is currently seeking nuclear weapons to use to destroy the America government.

...But tobacco, that does nothing but make people feel good. So it's okay.

Originally Posted by Noobst3R

Mhm, i can't see why it should be banned.. I mean, why? So far i know flavoured cigarettes are light, not heavy. So if the reason is health protection. O.o

About banning smoking in total. Why? If it is because 'other people are get injured 'cos you smoke' thing, then i just can tell the same about cars, airplanes,....

...But banning cars & planes would be so inconvenient.

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

I drink Diet Coke and used to drink Coke for years.

It takes about a week for your taste buds to get acclimated to Diet Coke. An old girlfriend got me switched by drinking Diet Slice soda (similar to Sprite) and after about a week I was OK.

Now regular Coke usually tastes sweet and syrupy to me and sometimes I have a hard time telling which is which.

Ergo maybe electronic cigs are not that bad once you get used to them.

Not for me. I personally hate both coke & diet coke of all brands. I rarely drink either, but I can tell them apart easily. Coca-Cola Classic is by far sweeter than Diet Coke or Coke Zero. Same with Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, & Pepsi Max.

Worse than that the diet version make me sick to my stomach.

Maybe, for some people, electronic cigs are still that bad once you get used to them.

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

Like breathing the shit factories pump into the air and drinking water contaminated with chemicals is any better.

I believe it is. It's not good, but not as bad as smoking.

Originally Posted by AlDaja

Coke and Pepsi are in the process of switching out it's artificial sweeter (Splenda) with steviva (leaf of a plant that grows in Paraguay) because of the Johnson and Johnson ruling. On the stand the FDA dude admitted that they don't know what happens to the human body when two different type of zero calorie sweeteners are mixed. The law suit sprang about because of, as Jeffro would say, "over consumptive twats" literally OD on the sh't. Excessive quantities or apparently mixing sweeteners over a period of time creates cancerous tumors and such in the GI track, bladder and rectum in addition to interfering with many forms of medication and can lead to neurological and/or lymphatic issues with people who lack a sufficient amino acid (aka people who suffer from skin ailments like psoriasis or eczema). The ruling agreement required J&J to remove the "tastes like sugar, because it's made from sugar" and pay a crap load of money to the defendants. In exchange J&J was able to have the case sealed and continue to sell it's product. Needless to say I have stopped using it and just went back to using sugar (which apparently will kill me too) and honey (assuming I can afford it, as the price bounces up and down).

Why your next trip to the salad bar may be your last??

Originally Posted by NiteStryker

I could relate that to our current public healthcare system right now. By the government allowing cigerettes to be sold they are increasing costs that it takes to provide public healthcare, as habitual smokers develop many more health problems early in life.

It may not encourage people to stay healthy & be unfair on those that do chose to stay healthy, but I still feel socialized healthcare would be far better than the broken system we have now.

[Afterburner]

Originally Posted by NiteStryker

I could relate that to our current public healthcare system right now. By the government allowing cigerettes to be sold they are increasing costs that it takes to provide public healthcare, as habitual smokers develop many more health problems early in life.

So say fuck them. If you smoke you shouldn't receive public healthcare.