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evildude August 8th, 2009 07:19 PM

What is Good and Bad?
 
Simple question really, what is good and bad. Is it merely what sociality defines as good and bad? For example no one knew pot was "bad" before the government outlawed it. Or that killing a person is "bad" but if you do it under the service of the military it is ok and you are doing a duty for your country. Is the sense of good and bad already in or minds when we are born? or is it put there by religion. To myself I believe it to be a mix of all of the above but I give this simple yet deep question to you guys, What is Good and Bad?




P.S-Not sure if this is a Pub topic or not....if not feel free to move

Nemmerle August 8th, 2009 07:33 PM

Re: What is Good and Bad?
 
The subjective engendered with the faith of the objective. A point of view produced by and creating certain social effects.

NiRv4n4 August 8th, 2009 09:06 PM

Re: What is Good and Bad?
 
morals are created by a mixture of human nature and manipulation by society. For example, if someone kills your father or mother or sibling, you will probably take the notion that murder is wrong from that incidence due to the sadness from what happened. Society alters the morals by saying what is good for it is right, and what is bad for it is wrong. murder is bad because it lowers available population and by extension, productivity. Vandalism is wrong because it is a precursor to anarchy, which is not an asset for society. Marijuana was outlawed because it was from mexico or something. I read something about it, but don't remember.

Re4_wesker August 8th, 2009 09:14 PM

Re: What is Good and Bad?
 
right and wrong, good and bad, they are all in the eye of the beholder.

Captain Fist August 8th, 2009 10:08 PM

Re: What is Good and Bad?
 
In general, murder and rape are frowned upon, while helping someone in need or being altruistic is considered good.

Acualy Is Confusingkid August 8th, 2009 10:55 PM

Re: What is Good and Bad?
 
Opinion.

nuff said

Sedistix August 8th, 2009 11:53 PM

Re: What is Good and Bad?
 
"To speak of right and wrong per se makes no sense at all. No act of violence, rape, exploitation, destruction, is intrinsically unjust, since life itself is violent, rapacious, exploitative, and destructive, and cannot be conceived otherwise."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

Mr. Matt August 9th, 2009 04:17 AM

Re: What is Good and Bad?
 
'Bad' is whatever the majority of the society you live in says it is. Ritual human sacrifices and drinking the blood of your enemies is considered to be very bad where I live, and I presume the same is true where you live too, but so far as the Aztecs were concerned it was rockin'.

evildude August 9th, 2009 06:01 AM

Re: What is Good and Bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sedistix (Post 4970790)
"To speak of right and wrong per se makes no sense at all. No act of violence, rape, exploitation, destruction, is intrinsically unjust, since life itself is violent, rapacious, exploitative, and destructive, and cannot be conceived otherwise."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

You know, I was reading one of Nietzsches books when I came up with this topic, Funny that you would quote it

Junk angel August 9th, 2009 09:46 AM

Re: What is Good and Bad?
 
Quote:

'Bad' is whatever the majority of the society you live in says it is. Ritual human sacrifices and drinking the blood of your enemies is considered to be very bad where I live, and I presume the same is true where you live too, but so far as the Aztecs were concerned it was rockin'.
Still as far as I know, there was no human culture that considered wanton murder to be good.
Revered ceremonial murder yes. Wanton no. Likewise if you look at most animals that form social groups, they also don't commit wanton murder inside of the group.
It's always purposeful.

I'd say this is more a biological part of us than merely social.

Otherwise in most cases, society creates right and wrong. For various reasons.


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