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Old May 31st, 2009   #11
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Default Re: General 'Black Jack' Pershing vs. Muslim Terrorists

i don't know what would happen with islam, but the remnants of islam would probably shift to extremism, even more than they currently are. and it would lead to the USA being hated by nations worldwide, perhaps causing a war. it could prove apocalyptic.

it would certainly destroy one of the fundamental doctrines of islam. they would probably either try and rebuild it elsewhere, or reform islam to not need the pilgrimage.

if the USA were not declared on by the rest of the world, they would be screwed, anyway, as most of the USA's oil comes from the middle east.

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How do you rebuild mecca? Isnt it a giant box around some sacred rock or something? (too lazy to google)


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Mecca is a city about forty five miles off of the Red Sea, supposedly the site of the proclamation of Islam by Muhammad.

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what is the giant box I am thinking of then?


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it this it? The big black box.

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Default Re: General 'Black Jack' Pershing vs. Muslim Terrorists

Hmm, the Phillipine insurrection wasnt so much a bunch of muslim extremist as they were nationalist fighting a a guerrilla war against a foreign invader. Calling them terrorist would imply that they targeted mostly political and civilian targets whereas the Moros fought chiefly against US forces. However if you want to find true terrorism one has only to look as far as the various campaigns the US conducted against the civilian populace of the Islands...very similar to how the Japanese conducted warfare in the Pacific 40 years later...

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Default Re: General 'Black Jack' Pershing vs. Muslim Terrorists

Even though the Pershing story is legend, around the time of the Indian Mutiny of 1857 those kind of rumors were central to the revolt. Native soldiers called sepoys, both Muslim and Hindu (did the Sikhs participate in the 1857 Mutiny?), revolted and took over Britsh garrison towns throughout the sub-continent.

To facilitate the mutiny, conspirators had spread the false rumor to Muslim soldiers that pork fat was used to grease the ammunition, which got in the mouths of soldiers when they had to bite a paper cartridge open. The same sort of story was spread to Hindu soldiers, except for them the bullets were supposedly smeared with beef tallow.

When it was finally put down, the British killed, literally tens of thousands of Indian men women and children. Many historians put the death toll easily in the hundreds of thousands, with one Indian historian proposing an unsubstantiated figure of 10 million Indians killed during and after the Mutiny. One of the more picturesque punishments meted out to mutineers was to strap them across the mouths of cannon, and then as massed native troops witnessed the punishment, the guns were fired and the mutineers bodies reduced to bloody fragments.

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it this it? The big black box.
Yea ok thats it. I got my items of religious irrevelence mixed up.


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