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Old June 2nd, 2009   #41
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Cant taser the guy in the last video due to lawsuits and liberal outcry that tasers are cruel and inhumane. If you get close enough to Pepper sray him then you run risk of being stabbed or slashed and possibly killed. This is a case where the net gun would have been handy.
I think the German police should be allowed to use tazers, too. The net gun would be an interesting alternative.

In certain situations where an armed suspect is not directly threatening other people the use of pepper spray or a tonfa/baton will not be safe enough for the police officers involved to get a dangerous person down and shooting the suspect will not be appropriate.

The use of police dogs is fine as long as you have instant access to them. But most of the time you don't have a colleague with a police protection dog at your side.




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Taser, not tazer.



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All very well, but that doesn't answer my question.
Which was what again, forgot, too lazy to look.


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England certainly, I don’t know about the ‘States. Although I seem to remember a senator in Sou Carolina was trying to get it made illegal there so *shrug* whatever.
Yea I remember that but you can swear all you want. After a point you may get cited for indecency if you are shouting fuck infront of a preschool, but otherwise, say whatever.


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While better than an arrest it doesn't make it a good idea. If you write a ticket for everyone who speeds you'll end up screwing over a lot of people who were doing the only safe speed on that section of road and using up a lot of police time. You won't have made society any safer for it.
So where is the limit? If the speed limit is technically 65 mph but everyone is doing 75, that seems to be generally accepted here in Cali. Around 10 mph faster than the average flow is where you get pulled over. 15-20 over will probably land you a ticket.



Doesn't matter if the lobster is alive or dead, doesn't matter whether it's in water or not. You're just not allowed to have it.



The centrepiece of society is selectively enforcing the law. The people at the top issue these bullshit decrees and then you take them and run them through a fine filter of common sense interpretation before you go out and do anything with them. If you didn't nothing would ever get done.

Systems have to have that wiggle room; otherwise some moron who's never done anything relating to the job gets elected into office and makes some uninformed decision to fuck it up for everyone else.



Oh no, what a nightmare.



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All very well, but that doesn't answer my question.
Which was what again, forgot, too lazy to look.


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England certainly, I don’t know about the ‘States. Although I seem to remember a senator in Sou Carolina was trying to get it made illegal there so *shrug* whatever.
Yea I remember that but you can swear all you want. After a point you may get cited for indecency if you are shouting fuck infront of a preschool, but otherwise, say whatever.


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While better than an arrest it doesn't make it a good idea. If you write a ticket for everyone who speeds you'll end up screwing over a lot of people who were doing the only safe speed on that section of road and using up a lot of police time. You won't have made society any safer for it.
So where is the limit? If the speed limit is technically 65 mph but everyone is doing 75, that seems to be generally accepted here in Cali. Around 10 mph faster than the average flow is where you get pulled over. 15-20 over will probably land you a ticket.


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Doesn't matter if the lobster is alive or dead, doesn't matter whether it's in water or not. You're just not allowed to have it.
Well if its alive it could be construed as kidnapping. Dead, it could be necrophealic beastality.


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The centrepiece of society is selectively enforcing the law. The people at the top issue these bullshit decrees and then you take them and run them through a fine filter of common sense interpretation before you go out and do anything with them. If you didn't nothing would ever get done.
Ok so in practical application of law enforcement, thats one thing. Limit of travel is 65 but everyone is doing 75. A single man is smoking an illegal substance in full public view.

The smoking man...why does he not go inside and smoke? He prolly wouldnt be bothered then, but also, not everyone is doing it.

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Systems have to have that wiggle room; otherwise some moron who's never done anything relating to the job gets elected into office and makes some uninformed decision to fuck it up for everyone else.
There is wiggle room. Lots of it. A 40 year old male teacher grabs a 16 year olds tit and he gets 20 years. A 35 year old female teacher fucks a 15 year old male student for 4 years and she gets probation.


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Oh no, what a nightmare.
When we run about 5 miles a day and sweat a crapload with our working conditions its pretty damn disgusting.


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