More police tomfoolery in the land of the free.

[Admiral Donutz]

What ever happend to that officer who shot that guy in the back of the head while he (the guy) was down on the ground and surrounded by various cops in a (metro?) station?

[Sedistix]

Last I read, he was indicted on murder or manslaughter and upon discovering that he was wanted, fled the area only to be picked up later. Aside from being in custody, haven't heard anything else on him.

[WiseBobo]

Originally Posted by Sedistix

Last I read, he was indicted on murder or manslaughter and upon discovering that he was wanted, fled the area only to be picked up later. Aside from being in custody, haven't heard anything else on him.

He did not flee. He spent time with his family prior to being arrested and booked into jail. His trial is in its beginning stages; the arraignment has gone through.

[jumjum]

Originally Posted by Sedistix

In reality, this hardly ever happens.

What do you mean? That no one believes charges of police misconduct unless they're on tape? Maybe so. And innocent people do get mistreated. But a hell of a lot less than we're told by some who have an agenda.

Really - what has damaged the quality of life in the US more, and what truly poses a quantifiable, articulable threat to our liberties and security? Is it really "police brutality" that endangers Americans?

Or is it the astronomical increase in violent and major crime since the 60's; the rise of an uncontrolled, hyper-violent criminal class which is almost completely unafraid of law enforcement; the almost non-existence of "true" prison sentences in state court systems ( e.g. a "10 year sentence" being eroded by all kinds of "good time" laws and administrative chicanery so that only 1 year is served - which works to release criminals far sooner, but in a way that keeps the deceived public in the dark.)

I'm voting "b".

[Nemmerle]

Is it any wonder there are so many more criminals when we've created so many more crimes?

[Jeffro]

Originally Posted by jumjum

Really - what has damaged the quality of life in the US more, and what truly poses a quantifiable, articulable threat to our liberties and security? Is it really "police brutality" that endangers Americans?

It is the laws they blindly and randomly enforce that is the danger. I cannot understand how a cop worth his ironed blue uniform will cuff and jail a person smoking a joint in a park, minding his own business. Or how an officer will force you to pour out any open container in public. We're all fucking babies that must be kept in the crib 24/7 according to this nation's idea of moral turpitude.

Oh and don't even think about questioning their decision, because "the law is the law". Such a fucking weak argument that every police officer chooses to follow. It's really sad and pathetic. What is even more pathetic is that people defend the notion that there is no such thing as a victimless crime.

Even if the illegal activity is consensual and unobtrusive, "the law is still the law". No matter how illogical and arcane it may be...

Or is it the astronomical increase in violent and major crime since the 60's; the rise of an uncontrolled, hyper-violent criminal class which is almost completely unafraid of law enforcement

The boogieman negro?

the almost non-existence of "true" prison sentences in state court systems ( e.g. a "10 year sentence" being eroded by all kinds of "good time" laws and administrative chicanery so that only 1 year is served - which works to release criminals far sooner, but in a way that keeps the deceived public in the dark.)

...or because the prisons are overflowing with "criminals" charged with prostitution, drugs and/or some other bullshit law that shouldn't even be on the books?

[Afterburner]

Originally Posted by Jeffro

It is the laws they blindly and randomly enforce that is the danger. I cannot understand how a cop worth his ironed blue uniform will cuff and jail a person smoking a joint in a park, minding his own business. Or how an officer will force you to pour out any open container in public. We're all fucking babies that must be kept in the crib 24/7 according to this nation's idea of moral turpitude.

They've got a job, and just like anyone with a job they need to fufill the requirements of that job. Especially since I imagine many cops were people with strong work ethics, who believe in getting the job done. I really don't blame cops for the stupidity that are our drug laws here in the U.S., I blame lawmakers.

[Sedistix]

Originally Posted by jumjum

I'm voting "b".

You're really buying into that fear mongering media, aren't ya.

If it's fear mongering that interests you. Check out what could happen to anyone in the US.

[NiteStryker]

Originally Posted by Jeffro

It is the laws they blindly and randomly enforce that is the danger. I cannot understand how a cop worth his ironed blue uniform will cuff and jail a person smoking a joint in a park, minding his own business.

Because its illegal. Plain and simple. The cop is not there to give his opinion on the law, he is there to enforce it.

I dont understand why half america cries like babies when we waterboard a known terrorist.

Originally Posted by Jeffro

Or how an officer will force you to pour out any open container in public.

Because, again, illegal.

Originally Posted by Jeffro

We're all fucking babies that must be kept in the crib 24/7 according to this nation's idea of moral turpitude.

Yes, you are.

When I had to chew a 23 year old man out this morning (mind you, I am 21) because he has gone 5 days without shaving, its fucking stupid. When I have to humiliate some stupid FNG because he came to work this morning without shaving, its fucking stupid. When I got a different FNG driving a car around with a cracked radiator and he just keeps adding water, thinking its a perfect solution, its fucking stupid.

The world is full of fucking stupid people. All ages, races, sexes, everything from the very rich to the dirt poor.

Originally Posted by Jeffro

Oh and don't even think about questioning their decision, because "the law is the law". Such a fucking weak argument that every police officer chooses to follow. It's really sad and pathetic.

Its their job. Do you even know what a police officer is? They ENFORCE the laws. They are not the senate. They are not a judge.

Originally Posted by Jeffro

What is even more pathetic is that people defend the notion that there is no such thing as a victimless crime.

There is not such a thing. Give me any example you wish.

Originally Posted by Jeffro

Even if the illegal activity is consensual and unobtrusive, "the law is still the law". No matter how illogical and arcane it may be...

Tis not the cops' job to call it "illogical" or "arcane". Tis his job to enforce. If he dont like it, dont be a cop.

Originally Posted by Jeffro

because the prisons are overflowing with "criminals" charged with prostitution, drugs and/or some other bullshit law that shouldn't even be on the books?

Give me one good as fuck reason why heroin should be legal. Prostitution? I can see making that legal, selling a service. But drugs are a different story.

[Nemmerle]

Originally Posted by NiteStryker

Because its illegal. Plain and simple. The cop is not there to give his opinion on the law, he is there to enforce it.

Do you know that, or are you just going on what you suspect? Because in England the police are largely empowered to arrest without being obligated to. Technically the police should arrest you every time you swear in public, do they do so? Like fuck they do. A system where you were obligated to arrest for every crime? I can't imagine that being practical.

Originally Posted by NiteStryker

There is not such a thing. Give me any example you wish.

Carrying a lobster over a certain length is illegal in some states. Where's the victim in that?