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Jeffro May 19th, 2009 12:07 PM

Hey little lad, will you spy on Charlie for me?
 
Town halls hire citizen snoopers as young as SEVEN to spy on neighbours | Mail Online

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Children as young as seven are being recruited by councils to act as 'citizen snoopers', the Daily Mail can reveal.

The 'environment volunteers' will report on litter louts, noisy neighbours - and even families putting their rubbish out on the wrong day.

There are currently almost 9,000 people signed up to the schemes. More are likely to be recruited in the coming months.

Controversially, some councils are running 'junior' schemes which are recruiting children.
Just when I think the United States is nipping on the U.K's heels in terms of tyranny, you limeys pull shit like this. ;)

Serio May 19th, 2009 01:38 PM

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Not nearly as bad as the other stuff going on in the world. They get paid to be a good citizen?

IcePure May 19th, 2009 03:14 PM

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Hey, I'd rather have them focused on their neighbours all day than getting themselves into the shit some of the kids around here do...

AlDaja May 19th, 2009 03:19 PM

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Next I suppose England will require papers to move though their cities and replace the Union Jack with the NAZI Swastika.

Nemmerle May 19th, 2009 03:32 PM

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London's Daily Mail reported (after an investigation under Britain's freedom of information act) that more than half of the local government councils responding admitted that they were using anti-terror laws and surveillance equipment to monitor such mundane activities as whether residents put their garbage out at the proper times for pickup. Said one prominent critic, "We are no longer living in what most would recognize as a free society." [Daily Mail, 11-1-08]
Trust your government, children.

AlDaja May 19th, 2009 03:39 PM

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Our government is no better. The fascists are returning. Mussolini I’m sure is having the last laugh. If you can’t corrupt or persuade the current generation other than its mindless dolts that meanderer then target their children. It’s happening already in schools and to many of the younger members here from posts I’ve read since joining on more sober topics.

Mitch Connor May 19th, 2009 03:40 PM

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Isn't this pretty much 1984? Where his annoying coworker's kids are always snooping on people and reporting them to the government.

AlDaja May 19th, 2009 03:46 PM

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1984 you mean, by George Orwell. That should be required reading for all students...used to be when I was in Junior High - bet you won't find that book anywhere near a public school today.

Serio May 19th, 2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemmerle (Post 4894187)
London's Daily Mail reported (after an investigation under Britain's freedom of information act) that more than half of the local government councils responding admitted that they were using anti-terror laws and surveillance equipment to monitor such mundane activities as whether residents put their garbage out at the proper times for pickup. Said one prominent critic, "We are no longer living in what most would recognize as a free society." [Daily Mail, 11-1-08]
Trust your government, children.

Makes me wonder whether or not I'm really being watched, when I feel like I am?

Mr. Matt May 19th, 2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro (Post 4894003)
Town halls hire citizen snoopers as young as SEVEN to spy on neighbours | Mail Online



Just when I think the United States is nipping on the U.K's heels in terms of tyranny, you limeys pull shit like this. ;)

We already have bored OAPs standing outside their houses with hand-held speed cameras, so enlisting child spies seems a logical next step.

wulfpaw May 19th, 2009 05:51 PM

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You have to ask yourself, what's the end result to this line of thinking on their part? How is setting all this in motion a good thing, in the long run? Reminds me of that movie 'Brazil'.

Afterburner May 19th, 2009 06:07 PM

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That shit wouldn't fly here. The kids would get shot for ratting on the neighbors.

Mr. Matt May 19th, 2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Afterburner (Post 4894300)
That shit wouldn't fly here. The kids would get shot for ratting on the neighbors.

I'm not sure which is worse. Hiring kids to get the neighbours into trouble with TEH LAW, or having neighbours who would shoot kids...

Warborg May 19th, 2009 08:50 PM

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Instead of big brother watching it's little brother. What's next? Your Dog's collar being bug? Oppps!

AlDaja May 19th, 2009 09:38 PM

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Insects with surveillance capability.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/...4d824221_o.jpg

Warforger May 19th, 2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemmerle (Post 4894187)
London's Daily Mail reported (after an investigation under Britain's freedom of information act) that more than half of the local government councils responding admitted that they were using anti-terror laws and surveillance equipment to monitor such mundane activities as whether residents put their garbage out at the proper times for pickup. Said one prominent critic, "We are no longer living in what most would recognize as a free society." [Daily Mail, 11-1-08]
Trust your government, children.

At my school library, some kid said he was going to bomb the test, and the Librarian thought there was going to be a bomb planted to blow up the library. Then she apparently heard me and my friend talking about "not well made before" and "bomb". Apparently my friend for the coming weeks kept getting called to the office to talk to him about this thing, and in the end they said to tell them when I talk to him about a bomb.

I was laughing so hard at that.......

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I'm not sure which is worse. Hiring kids to get the neighbours into trouble with TEH LAW, or having neighbours who would shoot kids...
In Texas, if someone steps on your property, you can legally shoot them and get away with killing them, so just invite your neighbor's over with there kid if there spying on you.......

AlDaja May 19th, 2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Warforger (Post 4894477)
In Texas, if someone steps on your property, you can legally shoot them and get away with killing them, so just invite your neighbor's over with there kid if there spying on you.......

Not exactly, the law does not grant Texans exclusivity on property violation. Shooting a violator has to be justified – as in the intruder is intending violent action against you or property either by unlawfully trying to enter a protected place or trying to remove a person from a protected place. Colorado has a similar law for property/self-defense…with the exception for Denver proper, residence in Denver county are not protected by our Make My Day Law.

Mr. Pedantic May 19th, 2009 11:03 PM

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Isn't that what the Hitler Youth were encouraged to do? Spy on their parents and neighbours for people buying contraband products or listening to Moscow radio?

AzH May 19th, 2009 11:04 PM

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There are more important things in the world then wether someone is a litter bug. But when the world goes to hell in a hand basket, at least the streets will be clean.

Zipacna May 20th, 2009 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AlDaja (Post 4894193)
Our government is no better. The fascists are returning. Mussolini I’m sure is having the last laugh.

Yeah, Mussolini is the prototype of a fascist... "What, the commies don't want me anymore? Okay, then I go right-wing." :rolleyes:

Junk angel May 20th, 2009 04:36 AM

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1984 you mean, by George Orwell. That should be required reading for all students...used to be when I was in Junior High - bet you won't find that book anywhere near a public school today.
I definitely have to agree. The book has way too many insights to be just ignored.
I'd actually not only have them read it, but also write an essay on it, so that they really read it instead of just nagging an excerpt somewhere :P

Jeffro May 20th, 2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AlDaja (Post 4894193)
Our government is no better. The fascists are returning. Mussolini I’m sure is having the last laugh. If you can’t corrupt or persuade the current generation other than its mindless dolts that meanderer then target their children. It’s happening already in schools and to many of the younger members here from posts I’ve read since joining on more sober topics.

It's not just the youngins either. It's people my age, your age, and older as well.

You could have various messages blared out of a loud-speaker and people would be none the wiser:

"Here's a job. Here's a television. Here's a mall. Work, plop, shop. Work, plop, shop. Work, plop, shop. Keep buying shit, you fucking morons! Do your national duty and become a worthless over-consumptive twat. Here's an IPHONE to keep you dazzled while we plunder your bank account. Here's an anti-depressant to sedate and please you as we force your world to get smaller and smaller."

And so on and so forth.

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Originally Posted by AzH
There are more important things in the world then wether someone is a litter bug. But when the world goes to hell in a hand basket, at least the streets will be clean.

I think two things might happen. Either the streets will become sparkling clean or they will be filled to the brim with refuse. Think of what happened to the city of Naples during the garbage strike and multiply that by five.

AlDaja May 20th, 2009 11:27 AM

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"Keep buying shit, you fucking morons! Do your national duty and become a worthless over-consumptive twat."

Jeffro, I'm stealing this and putting on the back of my car.:bows:

Mr. Pedantic May 20th, 2009 12:37 PM

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I definitely have to agree. The book has way too many insights to be just ignored.
I'd actually not only have them read it, but also write an essay on it, so that they really read it instead of just nagging an excerpt somewhere :P
I really enjoyed that book. We didn't do it in class, but I read it on the recommendation of my English teacher, and I thought it was awesome.

NiteStryker May 20th, 2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro (Post 4894003)
Just when I think the United States is nipping on the U.K's heels in terms of tyranny, you limeys pull shit like this. ;)

Wasnt this part of 1984? Where kids would rat out their parents if they displayed views against the party?

Then again, wasnt this a part of communistic thought period?

crisissuit3 May 20th, 2009 11:14 PM

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little brother is watching.

Junk angel May 21st, 2009 05:37 AM

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Wasnt this part of 1984? Where kids would rat out their parents if they displayed views against the party?

Then again, wasnt this a part of communistic thought period?
Yep on both accounts.
Although the Commies were more known for collective blame. But before 1936, they did bring forth a number of laws to attempt to destroy the traditional family.
Easy way to get abortion, easy way to get a divorce and a large number of others.
Of course, by 36, they completely turned around and it was almost impossible to get either only making divorce more humane around the sixties.

Also correct on 1984. Probably one could mention tow things there.
a) The girl (sadly utterly forgot the names of the characters) and how she grew up in those collective dorms, the ideology being pushed into her.
b) The main characters neighbor - the main character encounters him in minilove prior to going into room 101. The neighbor is actually proud of his kids, that they turned him in.
Of course, keep in mind that 1984 was showcasting the true face of communism, communism that dropped it's ideology facade and instead had only one left - power.
To achieve this, it created 3 nations in perpetual war, 3 classes (the relatively free but stupid proletariat, the outer party (probably the ones on which ideology was used) and the inner party, who again enjoyed relative freedoms, high power, knew more of the truth of things than the outer party, but for whom the party equaled religion.

Another really good author that captured communism very well was Vonnegut.
In two short stories.
a) One about a world were the smart, the beautifull, and all those who had biological bonuses had to have handicaps in order to assure equality.
b) Another one, were one of the aspiring english gentlemen who talked about socialism and communism in one of the better of pubs reached the future and was able to witness rampant communism in action.
After he came back and others asked him, if they truly abolished religion, he said that no, they have merely found a new one - equality.

crisissuit3 May 21st, 2009 06:04 AM

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well, we just got finished reading red scarf girl in class. it was about a girl in the cultural revolution and how children with a bad family background could become Red Gaurds if they ratted out their families or by breaking away from them by changing their names, or by publicly humiliating them.

NiteStryker May 22nd, 2009 01:38 PM

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I didnt like animal farm.

Not 1 bit.


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