Russia Bans emo's!

[evildude]

Originally Posted by MrFancypants

Try beating your head against a wall with and without a helmet. My guess is that you'll survive longer with one.

This post is just full of win

[Nemmerle]

Originally Posted by MrFancypants

Try beating your head against a wall with and without a helmet. My guess is that you'll survive longer with one.

My guess is that your skull is intact in both cases and what you're actually looking at is the impact of your brain sloshing around in your head so you'd be screwed either way.

Try hitting a bullet against your forehead with a pillow in the way and without one. What do you know, pillows are bulletproof! Which is of course perfectly true but has absolutely no bearing on the situation you're going to find yourself in when one gets thrown at you at many hundreds of miles an hour.

[bud389]

Originally Posted by Commissar MercZ

I've never been fond of emo's, but I find this hatred against them quite startling. Yet they have never bothered me and honestly I I don't really see them as a self-destroying culture... their music has some odd lyrics, but the argument you're using would also say that people who listen to rap are murderers, or those who listen to speed metal are satanic.

Smells like PMRC now.

Really if you want Emo to disappear, just let it disappear. From my experience most emo's tend to be emo for attention purposes, and very few are genuinly into this sub-culture. But when these violent actions occur, when laws are put down, it only increases the appeal of being in this sub-culture.

I'm not talking about their culture just in music, music doesn't define someone, but how they dress, act, and what music they listen to, all put together, DOES. (or atleast gives someone a justified opinion of them)

And does it increase the appeal of being in this sub culture? Because reverse psychology doesn't always work that way with such a large nation and with the added unpredictability of humans, their is no saying as to what will happen.

[crisissuit3]

Originally Posted by bud389

with the emphasis on suicide becoming more and more prevalent within this "culture", you think it's a life style?

if you ask me, we could really use a mass suicide. too many people these days. especially if the people who are killing themselves are retards thinking they have bad lives living with a roof over a head and 3 square meals. plus snacks.

[Commissar MercZ]

Originally Posted by bud389

And does it increase the appeal of being in this sub culture? Because reverse psychology doesn't always work that way with such a large nation and with the added unpredictability of humans, their is no saying as to what will happen.

You'd be surprised. Just look at otherwise unnotable movies or books which get a lot of attention when they get censored by a certain nation, or if a certain group wants their local town to ban it. Some things can become really fashionable that way. Satanic verses, the cartoon issues, the Passion of Christ, etc...

Another thing to observe is even where the 'internet' rallied against the Church of Scientology. Would their protests been noteworthy had they not been shut down by police in some areas, or threatened to get sued in others?

The "forbidden fruit" factor really helps in this case. To begin with Emo's are in this sub-culture because they feel it to be unique and oppressed by mainstream culture. Now when you put down laws and beat them up over it, it only increases that trait and appeal.

[NiteStryker]

Emos are stupid scum of society. "Oh my life is pain so Im gonna look like a retard cuz I hate living in upper middle class home with a hot shower and 3 meals a day but my life is pain".

If you wanna kill yourself, just do it already and stop using up my precious oxygen.

[bud389]

Originally Posted by Commissar MercZ

You'd be surprised. Just look at otherwise unnotable movies or books which get a lot of attention when they get censored by a certain nation, or if a certain group wants their local town to ban it. Some things can become really fashionable that way. Satanic verses, the cartoon issues, the Passion of Christ, etc...

Another thing to observe is even where the 'internet' rallied against the Church of Scientology. Would their protests been noteworthy had they not been shut down by police in some areas, or threatened to get sued in others?

The "forbidden fruit" factor really helps in this case. To begin with Emo's are in this sub-culture because they feel it to be unique and oppressed by mainstream culture. Now when you put down laws and beat them up over it, it only increases that trait and appeal.

It may be true for books and movies, but what about other things, like anthrax, you think people want to have that in their possession? Or mabye meth, or coke. Books and movies are relatively harmless because those are just mediums of entertainment, why do you think that the united states banned any practicing of religions in which sacrifices are in order, because it's dangerous to society, one could also go as far as to say that it's a life style, has banning it made it happen less in our country? Sure as hell, is it still performed, undoubtebly yes, but often? Hell no.

It could sway either way, and depending on the depravity of these things, it will influence it strongly one way or another.

[Warforger]

Originally Posted by crisissuit3

if you ask me, we could really use a mass suicide. too many people these days. especially if the people who are killing themselves are retards thinking they have bad lives living with a roof over a head and 3 square meals. plus snacks.

Actually, I think we should keep our stupid people, send them to a isolated place and make them breed, from there we will make our armies. Emo's will be our suicide bombers

Life is cheap, tanks are not.

It may be true for books and movies, but what about other things, like anthrax, you think people want to have that in their possession? Or mabye meth, or coke. Books and movies are relatively harmless because those are just mediums of entertainment, why do you think that the united states banned any practicing of religions in which sacrifices are in order, because it's dangerous to society, one could also go as far as to say that it's a life style, has banning it made it happen less in our country? Sure as hell, is it still performed, undoubtebly yes, but often? Hell no.

Well, its not just that, its also the media giving away the governments plans, or how to make a bomb in a airplane using cleaners and stuff in the airplane bathroom. That kind of stuff is better left for the media NOT knowing.....

[MrFancypants]

Originally Posted by Nemmerle

My guess is that your skull is intact in both cases and what you're actually looking at is the impact of your brain sloshing around in your head so you'd be screwed either way.

You'd still live longer with the helmet as it is designed to absorb energy, bycicle helmets usually consist of some foam-like polymer that absorbs energy by converting it into cracks in its fabric. The form of a helmet can also increase impact area.
Besides, a concussion is preferable to a concussion with lacerations to your face.

Try hitting a bullet against your forehead with a pillow in the way and without one. What do you know, pillows are bulletproof! Which is of course perfectly true but has absolutely no bearing on the situation you're going to find yourself in when one gets thrown at you at many hundreds of miles an hour.

We're still talking about bicycle accidents here, right? Of course if you have people shooting at you kevlar may be more appropriate than those plastic shells.

[Junk angel]

Because no one cares. My friends were all talking about this one kid who commit suicide in our school, i heard that he was emo somewhere in the coversation, ya know what i said "Who gives a ****, good riddance". I'm not some idiot who glamours over a death that was self caused by someones own self destructive culture/lifestyle. The sooner people realize this, the sooner they should stop caring about them.

Considering that most suicides most likely aren't committed by emos, most of your points don't really strike home.

Also we are way way away from a situation like the one which followed after the Leiden des jungen Werthers.
The suicide rate amongst teens is a lot lower.

Emo is a lifestyle, sure most of us don't have to agree with it (although some of the hairstyles are awesome), most of us might consider them idiots and panzies, but most of them won't actually go and kill themselves.
Sure they might go and cut themselves, but rarely is there any lasting harm.
Also if someone really has inclings to go and commit suicide, being emo will not make said more likely to commit it.

As to the racist part. It was the most appropriate word at that moment, for a word like fashionist or sttylist (in the negative connotation kind of way) does not really exist.
Also keep in mind that perfect english isn't given to all of us.