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Civilian prisons coming soon to U.S. Army base near you

What does that sound like to you? If the worst imaginable poop hits the paddles and all hell breaks loose, Obama could theoretically have the constitution suspended and then they could throw whoever they wanted in jail. Why else do we need prisons on our army bases?

Not that I wished to imply that our great leader would actually do that...


If you say anything about the source, I will kill you in your sleep.

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Would you say he's awesome if he completely ran our country into the ground, established a dictatorship, or both?

Those tend to happen when problems like the economy persist for long enough.

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They usually start a war to shift focus, but since your last president already used the "start new war"-card, we'll see what Obama comes up with.

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Surely that applies to anyone else, though? I mean, it's not like it's going to happen or anything...

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I love reading these. People who ignore the previous 8 years and especially the last 2-3 where the economy was continuing to plummet then blame the current president for the failed practices of the previous one.

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:vikki:

God you people and your end of the world theroies.

Its prolly cheap and easy security. You have some soldiers guard the fools instead of state-paid security guards that belong in unions that have to be dealt with.

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So? What's the difference between Obama and every president since Reagan shitting on the constiution?

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Lol, That was epic.

Anyway, there have been worse shits that happened, and there is more to come in the future.

btw: The source is shitty :lol::rofl::lol:

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Now that I actually read the article; it says this policy was made in 2005.

So this has nothing to do with Obama anyways.

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For once I agree with you. It's the end of the world if NASA construct's a contraption to pull down astroids to the planet for further experimentation and/or investigation. The next thing will be fears of a massacre just because soldiers are allowed to carry guns.

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More conservative scaremongering from Penguin_Unit. What else is new?

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Perhaps it won't be so bad; but with his tendency to lie so often (he's already violated several of his promises), I wouldn't put it past him to do something extreme.

Do you repeat what you heard on CNN or some other lowly thought manipulator? Bush couldn't have done anything without the support of Congress.

Thank you for reading the first three words of my post.

It's not an end of the world theory.

We already have a bunch of prisons. More isn't going to solve anything.

Hm...none, really. But I see somebody who has the potential to ruin this nation very quickly if he continues to do whatever he wants unchecked.

Spend money to alleviate your debt. That's the policy of our government right now.

Because some conservatives put it out. Right.

It can still be misused by the current leadership.

What does this have to do with anything? We're discussing suspicious prison camps. That won't end the world.

That's the kind of thinking that leaves you open. I'm not saying this will be the next locations for exterminating dissenters, but there is still a lingering possibility. Just because you don't believe in snakes doesn't mean they aren't there and can't bite you.

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Sure, but would you have started this thread if you had known from the beginning who was actually responsible for the decision?

I highly doubt it. You tried to discredit president Obama again and in the end you discredited Bush's administration
(as far as this is possible). Nice one.

There is apparently no need to kill anyone here in his/her sleep ;).

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Penguin_Unit, you might want to chill out about Obama. I think the fear's made you paranoid. Go ahead and prepare for the worst(self-reliance is good, so are fallout shelters, zombie defenses systems, etc.), but don't use Bush's activities to suggest Obama will do anything. Why don't you talk about how Obama could end up using this so-called PATRIOT Act to violate our constitutional rights, or how Obama could use the Clear Skies and Healthy Forests Acts to destroy our environment?

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Oh, my bad. Its another one of your "omgz teh president iz g00na t@k3 ovr teh cuntry! Run!!!" posts.


Yea your right again, the california prision system alone isnt horribly overcrowded. They havent been talking about releasing hundreds of thousands of people early to relieve overcrowding. /endsarcasm

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I know who was responsible.

It could still be misused, which is the whole point.

You think I'm some kind of Bush worshiper? He was a rotten president if I ever saw one.

Just poking fun/insults at the people who refuse to acknowledge whatever factual basis you have if the words "fox", "news", "Limbaugh", and various other conservative-referencing words and phrases appear in your post.

Theoretically he could misuse it. In fact, I wouldn't put it past him. At the moment I'm just a bit disconcerted by how he keeps going back on his promises, his signing things into law without anyone's questioning, and his backing plenty of policies we already know haven't helped anyone.

What were the others? This is my only post pointing out the potential for bad things to happen should the situation get out of hand enough for our vaunted leader to take full control.

That can be solved without building more prisons.

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Do you actually think this would happen? You really think Obama would order the military to sieze control of the country?

Like how? Either release the convicts early or kill them. And knowing our hippie society, its damn sure not gonna be the second choice, and I doubt YOU want to live next to a convicted rapiest / killer.

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Why are you so paranoid about Obama being able to pull a dictorship out of his ass? I think this is a good idea to put prisions in military bases.



I think he was suggesting concentration camps :lol:

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Can we ignore which Presidential administration put this forth and look at this objectively for a second?

The Military runs its own prisons so why the need to develop a separate civilian detention center? If you want the Military to handle civilian prisoners put them in military prisons like Ft. Leavenworth.

This may be innocent and well intended but how far a step is it from military run civilian detention center to a concentration camp? Not a very big one.

The wiki article forgot to mention the Japanese American internment camps used during WW2 such as Manzanaar.

Internment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Instead of just saying wiki is inaccurate use the references at the bottom of the page.

This goes hand in hand with the reports last year of the deployment in the USA of US combat units, a act which is supposed to be illegal according to the Constitution.

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I do really hope Obama does more stuff to, y'know, restore the Constitution. It was demoralizing to see how much Bush did, and disheartening to realize how much Constitution-destruction past presidents have wreaked during their terms.

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Psht. This is news? Seymour Johnson AFB for example, has had a civilian prison on its premises for over 40 years. The inmates are the ones who do a lot of the manual labor on the base that used to fall to CE squadrons and civvie contractors.

Non-story.

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Hey I am all for concentration camps 4 convicts. In a heartbeat.

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If you haven't noticed, the king has been passing executive orders like he can actually write law. Nobody's even bothered to check them like they should.

Until something happens, you disapprove, and you're deemed a convict?

It bothers me, to say the least. If something happens, don't say I didn't warn you. If it never happens, woohoo, more prison space.

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I dont think that it means what you think that it means
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executi...(United_States)

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Inconcievable! =p

So, with Obama's change-of-plan for the War on Drugs, should we be expecting prison populations to go down? It seems like it'd make sense to let out those in jail for possession of marijuana, from a financial standpoint.

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Psht, Obama has the nerve, the sheer AUDACITY even, to have among his Executive Orders, treasonous things like
-Ensuring Lawful Interrogations
-Honoring of Labor Contracts in Federal Projects
-Transparency of Presidential Records.
-Reviews of Ethics Violations and conduct.

What a slave driver...

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You mean the same transparency where he says he won't sign something without giving everyone time to know, signs something, and then lets it be known publicly after he did it?

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Dude, do you know how much time he gave people to know he was going to do this stuff? Over 5 months. These actions were part of his campaign promises. That's plenty of advance knowledge for me.

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No, im talking about the FOIA, the same thing the president was talking about and the very thing that allows reporters to sequester non classified documents from various government agencies. So NOW, if some news agency ask to see the military records of so and so, the responsible agency has no choice to comply if it is persuant to the FOIA. The memo has already been sent. Verious agencies have begun setting up e-mail and contact information in order to comply with what was outlined in the Executive Order.

Its like if half the schools in Townsville had no phones, and the governor states "Im demanding that open communication be restored with our Public Offices and establisments" and those schools started getting phones and cable communications lines installed.

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The White House's missing documents

He doesn't seem to have informed those people five months in advance.

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Obama doesn't update the White House website, just FYI.

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Does a general fight with his troops?

I didn't even try to imply that Obama updates a government website.

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Then why are you blaming him for the website not being updated and other communications that aren't directly his responsibility?

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When the President does things, they're usually recorded or at least mentioned. That's part of his transparency mantra, after all. But if this isn't even getting out, what does that tell you?

It's a matter of logic. When was the last time something a President did didn't get out unless it was covered up intentionally?

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You just said it wasn't his direct responsibility to share these things (I think you suggested he had staff to take care of it...?).

Besides, how would you know when information was covered up if no one ever found out it was covered up? Stands to reason there's probably plenty of information from past presidencies that was conveniently omitted. I'm sure if you think hard enough you can come up with some good examples. :)

Are you a conspiracy theorist, by the way?

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Do you honestly think that question needed to be asked?

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I think it's relevant, yes. He answered it in a different thread, so clearly he agreed it was relevant as well.

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If his staff are worthy to be working with the most powerful man in the world, they should be able to maintain consistency.

While it is true that we don't know if it was intentionally covered up, it seems very suspicious to me that none of the aforementioned actions the President took were made public.

Nixon? That's a dead horse that everyone still wants to beat. There's no proof that he was actually behind the Watergate thing. He probably just panicked and covered it up, and got in trouble for that. I would've done the same thing.

Not really, but I don't rule out conspiracies.

Leave that for another thread, please.

Obama could be a saint. He could be a communist dirtbag. He could be from Indonesia, which disqualifies him. Or he could be from Hawaii like they said. I don't rule out anything until it's positively disproven.

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He has his birth certificate saying he was born in Hawaii. Are you claiming he is not an American Citizen?

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Even if he was born in Indonesia, as the son of an American woman, isn't he a natural born citizen?

"The children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizen"

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You can forge birth certificates. The border is the wrong color for the year, I think, and the term "African" wasn't used to refer to darker skinned individuals until much later.

No. If you're born outside the country (the exception being zones we possess, like Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands) it doesn't count, and you can't become President. If that certificate really is fake (a lot of professionals have been saying it is), then you all got duped.

Is that just a saying?

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That's a quote from the founding fathers. You might want to consider looking for facts, instead of just making up bullshit. The child of an American citizen, born anywhere in the world, is considered a natural born citizen.

As pointed out in another thread, Barack Obama senior was Kenyan. Y'know, from Africa. African was perfectly acceptable. Legal terms of ethnicity and colloquial terms can vary, y'know. You don't see legislation involving the words "fags", "fanny-bandit", "butt-pirate", "muff-divers" or "dykes", the generally used terms are "same-sex couples" or "homosexuals".

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Sources, please.


The Constitution is still unclear on the 'natural-born citizen' language the Founding Fathers used, so there is still a great debate on what constitutes 'natural-born'.

Fixed.

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Title 8 of the United States Code. Kind of like why John McCain was allowed to run for president, despite being born in Panama.

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This wasn't what I was going to cite originally, but I found it and thought it explains everything I've been pondering myself (ignore tha parts about his Islamic faith unless you want to discuss that, too)

YouTube - UPDATE! - Barack Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Confirmed

Natural born would logically mean born naturally in the United States, not in Indonesia (assuming he came from there).

Completely unnecessary. You do realize there are a good number of democrats that don't worship this guy, right? Are they sore because they didn't get another Republican in office?

Panama was under U.S. control until December 31, 1999. Jimmy Carter signed it off in the '70s, and John McCain was born on August 29, 1936 in the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone. That's the part we controlled until 1999.

(Source)

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Do I really need to say it?

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Wow, it's like you won't read quotes from government documents.

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I love conspiracy theroies! Moonlanding was fake! 9/11 was from Bush! Iraq war was for Oil! Obama isnt a citizen!

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yeah, its hard to reiterate "he popped out of an American p*ssy therefore he is an American Citizen" to freepers who continue to mouth breathe in this country.