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Re: Civilian prison camps to be installed on army bases

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Originally Posted by NiteStryker (Post 4813647)

:vikki:

God you people and your end of the world theroies.

Its prolly cheap and easy security. You have some soldiers guard the fools instead of state-paid security guards that belong in unions that have to be dealt with.

For once I agree with you. It's the end of the world if NASA construct's a contraption to pull down astroids to the planet for further experimentation and/or investigation. The next thing will be fears of a massacre just because soldiers are allowed to carry guns.

Re: Civilian prison camps to be installed on army bases

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Originally Posted by n0e (Post 4813642)

I love reading these. People who ignore the previous 8 years and especially the last 2-3 where the economy was continuing to plummet then blame the current president for the failed practices of the previous one.

More conservative scaremongering from Penguin_Unit. What else is new?

Re: Civilian prison camps to be installed on army bases

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Originally Posted by Rich19 (Post 4813640)

Surely that applies to anyone else, though? I mean, it's not like it's going to happen or anything...

Perhaps it won't be so bad; but with his tendency to lie so often (he's already violated several of his promises), I wouldn't put it past him to do something extreme.

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Originally Posted by n0e (Post 4813642)

Do you repeat what you heard on CNN or some other lowly thought manipulator? Bush couldn't have done anything without the support of Congress.

Thank you for reading the first three words of my post.

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Originally Posted by NiteStryker (Post 4813647)

:vikki:

God you people and your end of the world theroies.

It's not an end of the world theory.

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Its prolly cheap and easy security. You have some soldiers guard the fools instead of state-paid security guards that belong in unions that have to be dealt with.

We already have a bunch of prisons. More isn't going to solve anything.

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Originally Posted by Jeffro (Post 4813669)

So? What's the difference between Obama and every president since Reagan shitting on the constiution?

Hm...none, really. But I see somebody who has the potential to ruin this nation very quickly if he continues to do whatever he wants unchecked.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Awesome (Post 4813708)

Anyway, there have been worse shits that happened, and there is more to come in the future.

Spend money to alleviate your debt. That's the policy of our government right now.

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btw: The source is shitty :lol::rofl::lol:

Because some conservatives put it out. Right.

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Originally Posted by Biiviz (Post 4813741)

Now that I actually read the article; it says this policy was made in 2005.

So this has nothing to do with Obama anyways.

It can still be misused by the current leadership.

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Originally Posted by Serio (Post 4813753)

What does this have to do with anything? We're discussing suspicious prison camps. That won't end the world.

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Originally Posted by Rogue Nine (Post 4813795)

More conservative scaremongering from Penguin_Unit. What else is new?

That's the kind of thinking that leaves you open. I'm not saying this will be the next locations for exterminating dissenters, but there is still a lingering possibility. Just because you don't believe in snakes doesn't mean they aren't there and can't bite you.

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Originally Posted by Penguin_Unit (Post 4813870)

It can still be misused by the current leadership.

Sure, but would you have started this thread if you had known from the beginning who was actually responsible for the decision?

I highly doubt it. You tried to discredit president Obama again and in the end you discredited Bush's administration
(as far as this is possible). Nice one.

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Originally Posted by Penguin_Unit (Post 4813870)

If you say anything about the source, I will kill you in your sleep.

There is apparently no need to kill anyone here in his/her sleep ;).

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Penguin_Unit, you might want to chill out about Obama. I think the fear's made you paranoid. Go ahead and prepare for the worst(self-reliance is good, so are fallout shelters, zombie defenses systems, etc.), but don't use Bush's activities to suggest Obama will do anything. Why don't you talk about how Obama could end up using this so-called PATRIOT Act to violate our constitutional rights, or how Obama could use the Clear Skies and Healthy Forests Acts to destroy our environment?

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Originally Posted by Penguin_Unit (Post 4813870)

It's not an end of the world theory.

Oh, my bad. Its another one of your "omgz teh president iz g00na t@k3 ovr teh cuntry! Run!!!" posts.

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Originally Posted by Penguin_Unit (Post 4813870)

We already have a bunch of prisons. More isn't going to solve anything.

Yea your right again, the california prision system alone isnt horribly overcrowded. They havent been talking about releasing hundreds of thousands of people early to relieve overcrowding. /endsarcasm

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles (Post 4813917)

Sure, but would you have started this thread if you had known from the beginning who was actually responsible for the decision?

I know who was responsible.

It could still be misused, which is the whole point.

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I highly doubt it. You tried to discredit president Obama again and in the end you discredited Bush's administration
(as far as this is possible). Nice one.

You think I'm some kind of Bush worshiper? He was a rotten president if I ever saw one.

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There is apparently no need to kill anyone here in his/her sleep ;).

Just poking fun/insults at the people who refuse to acknowledge whatever factual basis you have if the words "fox", "news", "Limbaugh", and various other conservative-referencing words and phrases appear in your post.

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Originally Posted by Crazy Wolf (Post 4813929)

Theoretically he could misuse it. In fact, I wouldn't put it past him. At the moment I'm just a bit disconcerted by how he keeps going back on his promises, his signing things into law without anyone's questioning, and his backing plenty of policies we already know haven't helped anyone.

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Originally Posted by NiteStryker (Post 4814112)

Oh, my bad. Its another one of your "omgz teh president iz g00na t@k3 ovr teh cuntry! Run!!!" posts.

What were the others? This is my only post pointing out the potential for bad things to happen should the situation get out of hand enough for our vaunted leader to take full control.

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That can be solved without building more prisons.

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Originally Posted by Penguin_Unit (Post 4814159)

What were the others? This is my only post pointing out the potential for bad things to happen should the situation get out of hand enough for our vaunted leader to take full control.

Do you actually think this would happen? You really think Obama would order the military to sieze control of the country?

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Originally Posted by Penguin_Unit (Post 4814159)

That can be solved without building more prisons.

Like how? Either release the convicts early or kill them. And knowing our hippie society, its damn sure not gonna be the second choice, and I doubt YOU want to live next to a convicted rapiest / killer.

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Originally Posted by Penguin Unit

What were the others? This is my only post pointing out the potential for bad things to happen should the situation get out of hand enough for our vaunted leader to take full control.

Why are you so paranoid about Obama being able to pull a dictorship out of his ass? I think this is a good idea to put prisions in military bases.

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Originally Posted by Nitestryker

I think he was suggesting concentration camps :lol:

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Can we ignore which Presidential administration put this forth and look at this objectively for a second?

The Military runs its own prisons so why the need to develop a separate civilian detention center? If you want the Military to handle civilian prisoners put them in military prisons like Ft. Leavenworth.

This may be innocent and well intended but how far a step is it from military run civilian detention center to a concentration camp? Not a very big one.

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Concentration camps

The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed. defines concentration camp as: a camp where non-combatants of a district are accommodated, such as those instituted by Lord Kitchener during the South African war of 1899-1902; one for the internment of political prisoners, foreign nationals, etc., esp. as organized by the Nazi regime in Germany before and during the war of 1939-45.

Similar camps existed earlier (such as the US concentration camps for Cherokee and other Native Americans in the 1830s, in Cuba (1868–78), and in the Philippines (1898–1901) by Spain under the Restoration and the US respectively[5]), the English term "concentration camp" was first used to describe camps operated by the British in South Africa during the 1899-1902 Second Boer War.[6] Ostensibly conceived as a form of humanitarian aid to the families whose farms had been destroyed in the fighting, the camps were used to confine and control large numbers of civilians as part of a scorched earth tactic.

The wiki article forgot to mention the Japanese American internment camps used during WW2 such as Manzanaar.

Internment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Instead of just saying wiki is inaccurate use the references at the bottom of the page.

This goes hand in hand with the reports last year of the deployment in the USA of US combat units, a act which is supposed to be illegal according to the Constitution.