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I have depression and anxitey so I think if I would benfit from this treatment.
I also think some one on this forum that is suffering from emotional distress becuase of me might benfit from marijuana. Pot that I smoke now helps take the edge off obessive thoughts and I get really scared of my sucidual thoughts while high. My life has been geting a little better now that I smoke more then once a week becuase everyday I can think more postive then before but I still have my lows.

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Medical weed might be right for you, but this thread sure as hell isn't right for General Gaming.

:moved: to the Pub.

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Have you actually sought real help? Medical marijuana should really be used after conventional methods have failed.

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Medicinal marijuana is for cancer patients and it shouldn't be used to treat depression. You've already fucked up your brain due to smoking it at such a young age so stop, salvage whatever braincells you have left, and get your life in order.

Start exercising, take St. Johns Wort and try to deal with depression naturally.

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I exercise but it dosent help me forget about problems that I shouldnt be worrying about so when I get stoned Im able to not care about it as much.

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Getting so stoned you can't think straight was not really what advocates of medical marijuana intended, and I don't think that message is going to help the cause any.

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Marijuana can be used to treat depression, but I don't think it's right for you.

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When you attach yourself to things that dilute the mind, things like drugs and alcohol, your ability to experience peace and happiness is hindered without them. So, it's my experience that a person who finds it necessary to drink or do drugs in order to have a really good time, has difficulty maintaining the experience of happiness without those things. Their mind is one that affirms that alcohol intake equals a good time, and therefore a dependency on the substance arises in the mind. This is hardly true in all cases... there are many gray areas, like everything in life; but, when a person reaches a point in their life when they desire something lasting, something that isn't just a temporary thrill ride, they'll perhaps come to the realization that alcohol and drugs are merely disguised forms of suffering, because in order to continue enjoying the thrill, you have to keep on doing them. And, what do we know about the long-term effects of constant drug and alcohol use? They aren't good, and in any case can never lead to a true and lasting foundation of happiness. Such a state is only possible when you can learn to still the attachments of your mind and experience life in a state of awareness.


Perhaps you should try Mediation, Reaching out to help other to take your mind off of your sadness?

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Well I was pretty messed up before I started smoking pot when I smoked weed I started doing better in life when I tried to quit I was going through marjor fuck ups like the day I was invited to a semi.

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You haven't answered my question. Have you tried conventional treatments for depression or are you really just looking for marijuana to be legalized so you can get high easier?

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I stopped smoking cannabis about two months ago and am sober the majority of the time, yet I still cannot find peace and happiness. How can I? We are fucked out of freedom from day one until our death.

Born into the system with a social security number, must adhere to the rules of the elders, we grow up, must then adhere to the laws of the land no matter how irrational or arbitrary they may be, work for some dickhead boss 40 hours a week, deal with shallow retarded co-workers who gab on about reality shows and their kids, forced to pay illegal federal institutions that rob our bank accounts, somehow make peace with our comfortable servitude, grow old, retire and then piss away the rest of our lives by going on carnival cruises with social security funds (which probably won't exist when Generation X/Y retire).

People drink and take drugs to escape this bland, humorless advertising mecca based around the Protestant work ethic.

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I've tried many things such as thearpy, I take an anti depressant and it dosent help so when I smoke marijuana I dont feel depressed and it gets rid of alot thoughts that I shouldnt be thinking about.

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You could just not do these things, like me.

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Your just blocking the thoughts with drugs, there still in there. Sooner or later you'll have to deal with your demons.

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By those standards, heavy drinking or smoking crack will be as useful as marijuana in a medical role. I'm not all that much for medical marijuana, something about getting high to forget about medical problems, escape pain, etc.

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That's not what medical marijuana is used for. It's an anti-inflammatory and can relieve nausea and pain. Check here for some fairly balanced pros and cons.

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Don't know about that, drugs and alcohol have given me many interesting insights that I retain and enjoy once the immediate physiological effects of the substance have passed.

That's not really to say they're disguised suffering, it's just to say they're temporary aleviations of suffering. If you feel good then you're not suffering, suffering simply is feeling bad.

Awareness of what? It seems a rather empty term. If you’re being tortured to death the more aware of it you are the less pleasant it is. It’s not enough just to be aware of the world around you, you have to like that world to begin with and if you stilled all your attachments anything you observed would be devoid of meaning anyway.

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They're really distractions from the true nature of the self, and I think that's why a lot of people do them, because they don't want to face their internal reality; it's too difficult.

Sorry I'm basing this on my on experience with such matters.

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Whatever I am at any particular time is what I am. If I consume alcohol and become happy then I am happy and that is the nature of my true self in that moment.

There may be something in the idea that a lot of people do them because there's something about their internal reality, or how it relates to the world, that they don't want to change; but have you considered that it may be because they can't face those things? There are a great many questions to which no answer can be given; and causes of depression based on chemical problems or associative conditioning that cannot be solved by introspection. Then there are cases whereby the person might actually value the thing causing them depression. Say you learned that your friend was a murderer; for all it might cause you discomfort it's not immediately clear that you'd even want to be okay with his murdering.

Just looking within doesn’t necessarily provide a solution, it’s possible to look within, see a problem, and have no idea how to fix it.

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In Canada, it's really not that hard to get high to begin with...

Although if anxiety/depression/etc became acceptable reasons for smoking medicinal marijuana, you'd simply have more people getting harassed by cops, and more people upset that complete strangers are smoking something they disapprove of. With the federal government we have in power now our pot laws won't be changing anytime soon.

And honestly, if you're constantly depressed/thinking of suicide... go see a shrink.

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Or find some reason to live. If you don't feel attached enough to your parents to avoid offing yourself for their sake, go hang out, you might find someone worth not-dying for. It won't get rid of the suicidal thoughts, but it'll certainly give you more reason to not "trip" over the bannister or "accidentally" drink too much or "slip" with your razor while shaving.

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So let me get this straight. You are going to stick your head in the metaphorical sand rather than working through your problems properly? You (hopefully) have the intelligence of a human, not an ostrich. Act like it.

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First off, bear with me. This post doesn't contain any form of argument, I'm just trying to respond to something Jeffro said.
To be honest, I don't know. The conditions for happiness differ from each person, and for all either of us know, you won't find true happiness until you find, as cliché as it may sound, true love and/or have a child. But I also believe that it's not something you can go on search for, 'cause I don't think happiness, whatever it may be, will come if you search for it or have it constantly on your mind, but instead when you have your life in order, it'll come *really* slowly, as long as you let yourself enjoy the little things in life.

Basically, I think if everything's going well, you'll attain a sense of security and stability, and once you have that 'happiness' can be developed. For me? I'm rarely displeased or unhappy, and have only had ~2 low points in my life where I've been unhappy for longer than 3-4 consecutive days, but obviously it has to do with the current conditions, as my greatest worry is passing my exams, which is a worry of luxury.
I see where you're coming from, but I'd say you're being awfully pessimistic about it. I take higher education just so I'll escape the negatives. Meaning, I take higher education so instead of going "aw, man, work tomorrow", I'll go "fuck yeah, work tomorrow, I'm gonna rape that problem, man". It's my belief that your work isn't supposed to be a separate part of your life, but it should be something you'd actually do on your spare time, and in that way, it should be interesting. I hate it when I ask people why they do a certain job, or study a certain thing, and they just respond 'because I had to take something' or something along those lines. People should do things because they're interested.

Say I want to be a scientist. I enjoy my work and find it interesting, like putting pieces together, similar to a puzzle. I get home from work, a bit tired but pleased 'cause I managed to get a bit further. Make some dinner and go chill out with my friends or go to do some martial arts or work out, or play some videogames. I don't think that sounds bad. Actually, it sounds exactly like what I'm doing right now, except that I probably have more freetime right now, and more worries since I always think I should do more work. I don't think that's bad. If you enjoy what you do, make a living out of it, then you should fucking enjoy your life. Have a solid group of friends, stable income, and then take up new hobbies (like extreme sports, martial arts, music -- whatever), and you're not a victim of blood-sucking leeches. I think what you said holds true for conglomerate drones, not for someone who works with something he really enjoys, and has spare time enough to practice other things he enjoys.

tl;dr, don't be so pessimistic, bro'.
But there are so many other things to do that don't require anything artificial. Have you considered skydiving, hang gliding, rock climbing, or anything similar to that? Extreme sports can provide quite the experience. Hell, even going to salsa class with your girlfriend could be fun if you do it with the right mindset.

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Ever try rock climbing/dancing with your girlfriend high? Twice the fun. :p

I think if you use a drug responsibly and don't let your life revolve around it, than there's no problem.

I go to work, have hobbies, a girlfriend, friends, go on vacations, etc. I love settling down at night with my vaporizer and getting high, though. Since I have other things to do for fun, I can (and have) easily stop using Marijuana and not be bothered one bit.

Videoslave is obviously abusing MJ. It's really unhealthy when you let anything control and be the center of your life. Whether it be TV, computer, or drugs.

First of all, Video, you mentioned you were having suicidal thoughts in another thread. Marijuana can't and won't cure that. You need help for a problem of that nature.

Also, you mentioned a while ago that you don't have many friends/hobbies. I think you should work on that. You're only seventeen, correct? It's not that hard to make friends when you're that age. You'll most likely never see 99% of the kids in your school again after you graduate anyway. If a kid thinks your weird? Just stop talking to him. If you ask a girl out and she tells you to fuck off? Oh well, plenty of other girls. You need to get some priorities man. You're going down a bad path that I've seen many people go down before. The end of that road isn't pretty.

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Why would you pay more for medical Marijuana when you have some now?

Isn't this bold sentence an oxymoron?

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What if he's in the same situation as an adult? Would you suggest for him to talk to random patrons on the street, in the library, or on the bus?

I've struggled with being socially inept my whole life and having that handicap can severely hinder your chances of obtaining friendships. It's not that easy and it leaves you withered, bitter, and depressed.

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Yeah, you can't wait for people to walk up to you and go "Hey, wanna be friends?" It does't work that way.

Once you make a couple friends you can usually branch off from there. Have them introduce their friends to you, etc.

Most people aren't beacons of popularity. They aren't going to call you a loser for asking them if they want to catch a drink.

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Start with a 'hi'. That usually helps. And sometimes, people start talking to you by themselves, but if you notice something strange or unusual about them ask them what its for, and so on and so forth.

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You don't make friends by having the goal of making friends. Making friends is usually a byproduct of an activity you're engaged in, be it school, or something recreational. It's indeed difficult to establish friendships if you have no proper baseline, HOWEVER, if you start an activity you enjoy, that is taught in groups, you might find someone there who you can connect with, on a basic level, and then it might develop from there. Martial arts, for instance, is a good way of meeting interesting people, 'cause you get anything from lawyers to truck drivers, you learn something new and go through stuff together. The objective isn't to become friends, but to learn something, and being with a person and focusing on the same thing over periods of time usually instills a sense of friendship.

Obviously if you seem desperate or clingy, you'll be more of a pest than a prospective friend, but if you have someone you meet during an activity (best one would probably be a sport, even though I would suggest a martial art, 'cause the hardships are, well, better for bonding, in my opinion) who you think is cool, then just partner up with them whenever you go there, and before you know it, he'll give you a ride there or stuff like that, and you have conversations that are subtle comparisons of interests, and eventually someone will go "hey, I'm going to a party this weekend, wanna tag along?" or "hey wanna go watch X movie at the theater?". At least that's how it's worked for me.

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You dont need freakin pot for any "medicinal" purposes, you people are dumb to think so.

You want to get high.

If you have pain, there are 476 different medicines out there that help with pain.

And if you are depressed, there is medicine out there for you as well.

(Altho I think some "conditions" are not real like ADD..ok so you cant pay attention, you have a short attention span. People are different)

I also think its wierd that its only as of recent decades people have such things like "depression". Now, I am no certified doctor, and if it is indeed a chemical imbalance, then it is what it is. But I find it wierd that this has only come about in recent years, during the evolution of P.C. culture and the "nothing is your fault its all your parents / societies / other kids at schools fault".

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Nitestryker, your last paragraph could use some critical thinking. Virginia Woolf, Ernest Hemingway, Kurt Cobain, and Abraham Lincoln are examples of people who've had depression(and only Cobain is even close to the idea of a "PC culture", chronologically). Reading stories of their personal life or how they died would certainly support those hypotheses (Woolf stepped into a river with rocks in her pockets, Hemingway blew his brains out with a shotgun, as did Cobain, and Lincoln didn't get the chance). All of these people were sucessful, respected people, and they still weren't able to find contentment in life. That would suggest a chemical imbalance to me.

Agree with you on the pot thing, though.

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Because one cannot find contentment in life means there is a chemical imbalance?

If it is indeed a chemical imbalance causing problems in the body then that is legitimate. I just think there is alot of fakes out there who would be moping around, claiming "depression" to get some vikes.

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Enjoy yourself, its later than you think.

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Happiness is a chemical state. It can be caused either by triggering a certain route of conditioned response, I.E. because you enjoy something in the world, or by injecting drugs. If someone can't find enjoyment in the world they suffer from a chemical imbalance, whether because they're just chemically fucked from the get go or because they've not received proper conditioning is irrelevant.

For whatever reason they're unhappy, what sort of miserable bastards would we be to demand that they persist in their unhappiness just because we thought they might be trying to get some drugs to have more fun?

‘No more drugs for you! You might be faking unhappiness so you can have more fun!’ Doesn’t that sound wrong to you?

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Lemme just read off to you the side effects list of citalopram (Celexa), a popular selective-serotonin-reuptake-inhibitor(SSRI), the primary class of drugs used to treat depression(no narcotics, frankly).

All words in bold italics are mine, the rest are direct quotes, and I didn't include the standard allergic reactions possible (rash, swelling, trouble breathing, etc.)


Gee, I wish I had some more of that stuff! I love this drug that "may improve your feelings of well-being and energy level"!

From what I've seen of these drugs, it changed a guy who was constantly thinking of suicide into a guy who only thinks of suicide a few times a day. Granted, this guy's only been on these for a few weeks, so I don't know how it'll end.

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Video, almost all your posts are just you saying why you think you should be allowed to smoke weed. I've done it a few times before, so im not just talking out of my ass when I say that you need to get the fuck over it. It may not have many bad effects, but its not going to cure any of your depression or any of that stuff. Stop trying to justify your weed use and find something better to do. It may not harm your body, but you just cant handle using it any more. Start doing art or something. Read some books, go out with friends or something.

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I have taken similar medications in the past, and have experienced no evident side effects, but the main effect is not some sort of "high" as you would get from illegal drugs. It does not instantly make you happy all the time and you can easily still be saddened and experience all the regular emotions. People who are looking for some sort of thrill will most likely try to get some illegal drugs rather than this stuff.

As far as the side effects go, I never knew there was a chance it could give you an "erection lasting four or more hours", that seems an extremely odd and unlikely side effect for such a medication.

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Probably it messes with the neurotransmitters working in the hypothalamus, causing an abnormal erection or something.

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Murphy's Law still applies I suppose.

In regards to the original topic if you truly have a chemical imbalance, I see nothing wrong with taking such medications, and is certainly a valid alternative to expecting the government to legalize the drug of your choice. Or just talk to a psychologist a bit, there is nothing wrong with that, it does not make you a "crazy person."

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When it comes to medications, an abnormal erection would more likely be caused by an increase in blood pressure, not neurotransmitters.

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But my point is, is this a person who is depressed because they didnt get a ps3 game for their birthday type thing? Maybe they just havent found what actually makes them happy.

So everyone who says they are depressed should be given drugs to give them artifical happyness? Instead of treating the actual problem?

If I said I was depressed and the only thing that would make me happy is a 25 million dollar mansion with megan fox as my personal maid, do I automatically deserve that just because it would make me happy?

To go one step further...why does everybody deserve happyness? And dont anybody quote Jefferson, saying "its a fundamental human right"...he said "THE PERSUIT of happyness. Not "the entitlement" of happyness.

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25 million dollar mansion with Megan Fox as a personal maid? Dude, a month's worth of citalopram, no insurance, is about 20 bucks. It doesn't make you happy, it just makes you a bit less bummed out.

PS: Jefferson wrote "the pursuit of happiness" =p

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Yes.

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Maybe not. Drugs may be one of the things that make them happy.

Not necessarily given, but certain not prevented from getting.

Well that’s the thing: they don’t deserve happiness or misery. Technically they don't deserve anything; either our tyranny, in restraining them from drugs, or our charity, in providing them with drugs.

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Oh...why thank you. :)

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That way I know I'm getting clean marijuana. Ihave had weed that tasted like windex and it made me go all stiff for a few hours and it wasnt a good high at all.

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hahah thats funny man... dealers just put random shit in a baggie to make it look like you have more dope in it...

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No its not that.
It's more like when the dope is being grown they spray it with stuff like febreeze witch can make you feel really sick after you smoke it.

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yeah well no offence but thats what you get...

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:/
Well I want somthing more pure and this is why I'm going to the government to help me.