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Old February 21st, 2009   #31
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Nitestryker, your last paragraph could use some critical thinking. Virginia Woolf, Ernest Hemingway, Kurt Cobain, and Abraham Lincoln are examples of people who've had depression(and only Cobain is even close to the idea of a "PC culture", chronologically). Reading stories of their personal life or how they died would certainly support those hypotheses (Woolf stepped into a river with rocks in her pockets, Hemingway blew his brains out with a shotgun, as did Cobain, and Lincoln didn't get the chance). All of these people were sucessful, respected people, and they still weren't able to find contentment in life. That would suggest a chemical imbalance to me.

Agree with you on the pot thing, though.

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Because one cannot find contentment in life means there is a chemical imbalance?

If it is indeed a chemical imbalance causing problems in the body then that is legitimate. I just think there is alot of fakes out there who would be moping around, claiming "depression" to get some vikes.


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Because one cannot find contentment in life means there is a chemical imbalance?

If it is indeed a chemical imbalance causing problems in the body then that is legitimate. I just think there is alot of fakes out there who would be moping around, claiming "depression" to get some vikes.
Happiness is a chemical state. It can be caused either by triggering a certain route of conditioned response, I.E. because you enjoy something in the world, or by injecting drugs. If someone can't find enjoyment in the world they suffer from a chemical imbalance, whether because they're just chemically fucked from the get go or because they've not received proper conditioning is irrelevant.

For whatever reason they're unhappy, what sort of miserable bastards would we be to demand that they persist in their unhappiness just because we thought they might be trying to get some drugs to have more fun?

‘No more drugs for you! You might be faking unhappiness so you can have more fun!’ Doesn’t that sound wrong to you?

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Because one cannot find contentment in life means there is a chemical imbalance?

If it is indeed a chemical imbalance causing problems in the body then that is legitimate. I just think there is alot of fakes out there who would be moping around, claiming "depression" to get some vikes.
Lemme just read off to you the side effects list of citalopram (Celexa), a popular selective-serotonin-reuptake-inhibitor(SSRI), the primary class of drugs used to treat depression(no narcotics, frankly).

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Nausea, dry mouth, trouble sleeping, loss of appetite, weakness, tiredness, drowsiness, dizziness, increased sweating, blurred vision, or yawning may occur...Tell your doctor immediately if any of these unlikely but serious side effects occur: unusual or severe mental/mood changes (e.g., nervousness, unusual high energy/excitement, rare thoughts of suicide), shakiness (tremor), decreased interest in sex, changes in sexual ability. Tell your doctor immediately if any of these rare but very serious side effects occur: stomach pain, fainting, bloody/black/tarry stools, vomit that looks like coffee grounds(note: this is you bleeding into your stomach), easy bruising/bleeding, muscle weakness/cramps, seizures, fast/irregular/pounding heartbeat, diffculty urinating, change inn the amount of urine... Seek immediate medical attention if you develop some of the following symptoms: hallucinations, restlessness, loss of coordination, fast heartbeat, severe dizziness, unexplained fever, sever nausea/vomiting/diarrhea, twitchy muscles. For males, in the very unlikely event you have a painful or prolonged erection lasting 4 or more hours, stop using this drug and seek immediate medical attention, or permanent problems could occur(priapism is often treated by draining the blood from the penis, think of a torrent of black blood spilling out from a puncture wound. Untreated priapism can lead to impotence or even gangrene.)
All words in bold italics are mine, the rest are direct quotes, and I didn't include the standard allergic reactions possible (rash, swelling, trouble breathing, etc.)


Gee, I wish I had some more of that stuff! I love this drug that "may improve your feelings of well-being and energy level"!

From what I've seen of these drugs, it changed a guy who was constantly thinking of suicide into a guy who only thinks of suicide a few times a day. Granted, this guy's only been on these for a few weeks, so I don't know how it'll end.

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Video, almost all your posts are just you saying why you think you should be allowed to smoke weed. I've done it a few times before, so im not just talking out of my ass when I say that you need to get the fuck over it. It may not have many bad effects, but its not going to cure any of your depression or any of that stuff. Stop trying to justify your weed use and find something better to do. It may not harm your body, but you just cant handle using it any more. Start doing art or something. Read some books, go out with friends or something.

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Lemme just read off to you the side effects list of citalopram (Celexa), a popular selective-serotonin-reuptake-inhibitor(SSRI), the primary class of drugs used to treat depression(no narcotics, frankly).

All words in bold italics are mine, the rest are direct quotes, and I didn't include the standard allergic reactions possible (rash, swelling, trouble breathing, etc.)


Gee, I wish I had some more of that stuff! I love this drug that "may improve your feelings of well-being and energy level"!

From what I've seen of these drugs, it changed a guy who was constantly thinking of suicide into a guy who only thinks of suicide a few times a day. Granted, this guy's only been on these for a few weeks, so I don't know how it'll end.
I have taken similar medications in the past, and have experienced no evident side effects, but the main effect is not some sort of "high" as you would get from illegal drugs. It does not instantly make you happy all the time and you can easily still be saddened and experience all the regular emotions. People who are looking for some sort of thrill will most likely try to get some illegal drugs rather than this stuff.

As far as the side effects go, I never knew there was a chance it could give you an "erection lasting four or more hours", that seems an extremely odd and unlikely side effect for such a medication.

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Probably it messes with the neurotransmitters working in the hypothalamus, causing an abnormal erection or something.

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Default Re: medical marijuana should be right for me

Murphy's Law still applies I suppose.

In regards to the original topic if you truly have a chemical imbalance, I see nothing wrong with taking such medications, and is certainly a valid alternative to expecting the government to legalize the drug of your choice. Or just talk to a psychologist a bit, there is nothing wrong with that, it does not make you a "crazy person."

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When it comes to medications, an abnormal erection would more likely be caused by an increase in blood pressure, not neurotransmitters.


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