Or find some reason to live. If you don't feel attached enough to your parents to avoid offing yourself for their sake, go hang out, you might find someone worth not-dying for. It won't get rid of the suicidal thoughts, but it'll certainly give you more reason to not "trip" over the bannister or "accidentally" drink too much or "slip" with your razor while shaving.
I exercise but it dosent help me forget about problems that I shouldnt be worrying about so when I get stoned Im able to not care about it as much.
So let me get this straight. You are going to stick your head in the metaphorical sand rather than working through your problems properly? You (hopefully) have the intelligence of a human, not an ostrich. Act like it.
First off, bear with me. This post doesn't contain any form of argument, I'm just trying to respond to something Jeffro said.
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I stopped smoking cannabis about two months ago and am sober the majority of the time, yet I still cannot find peace and happiness. How can I? We are fucked out of freedom from day one until our death.
To be honest, I don't know. The conditions for happiness differ from each person, and for all either of us know, you won't find true happiness until you find, as cliché as it may sound, true love and/or have a child. But I also believe that it's not something you can go on search for, 'cause I don't think happiness, whatever it may be, will come if you search for it or have it constantly on your mind, but instead when you have your life in order, it'll come *really* slowly, as long as you let yourself enjoy the little things in life.
Basically, I think if everything's going well, you'll attain a sense of security and stability, and once you have that 'happiness' can be developed. For me? I'm rarely displeased or unhappy, and have only had ~2 low points in my life where I've been unhappy for longer than 3-4 consecutive days, but obviously it has to do with the current conditions, as my greatest worry is passing my exams, which is a worry of luxury.
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Born into the system with a social security number, must adhere to the rules of the elders, we grow up, must then adhere to the laws of the land no matter how irrational or arbitrary they may be, work for some dickhead boss 40 hours a week, deal with shallow retarded co-workers who gab on about reality shows and their kids, forced to pay illegal federal institutions that rob our bank accounts, somehow make peace with our comfortable servitude, grow old, retire and then piss away the rest of our lives by going on carnival cruises with social security funds (which probably won't exist when Generation X/Y retire).
I see where you're coming from, but I'd say you're being awfully pessimistic about it. I take higher education just so I'll escape the negatives. Meaning, I take higher education so instead of going "aw, man, work tomorrow", I'll go "fuck yeah, work tomorrow, I'm gonna rape that problem, man". It's my belief that your work isn't supposed to be a separate part of your life, but it should be something you'd actually do on your spare time, and in that way, it should be interesting. I hate it when I ask people why they do a certain job, or study a certain thing, and they just respond 'because I had to take something' or something along those lines. People should do things because they're interested.
Say I want to be a scientist. I enjoy my work and find it interesting, like putting pieces together, similar to a puzzle. I get home from work, a bit tired but pleased 'cause I managed to get a bit further. Make some dinner and go chill out with my friends or go to do some martial arts or work out, or play some videogames. I don't think that sounds bad. Actually, it sounds exactly like what I'm doing right now, except that I probably have more freetime right now, and more worries since I always think I should do more work. I don't think that's bad. If you enjoy what you do, make a living out of it, then you should fucking enjoy your life. Have a solid group of friends, stable income, and then take up new hobbies (like extreme sports, martial arts, music -- whatever), and you're not a victim of blood-sucking leeches. I think what you said holds true for conglomerate drones, not for someone who works with something he really enjoys, and has spare time enough to practice other things he enjoys.
tl;dr, don't be so pessimistic, bro'.
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People drink and take drugs to escape this bland, humorless advertising mecca based around the Protestant work ethic.
But there are so many other things to do that don't require anything artificial. Have you considered skydiving, hang gliding, rock climbing, or anything similar to that? Extreme sports can provide quite the experience. Hell, even going to salsa class with your girlfriend could be fun if you do it with the right mindset.
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But there are so many other things to do that don't require anything artificial. Have you considered skydiving, hang gliding, rock climbing, or anything similar to that? Extreme sports can provide quite the experience. Hell, even going to salsa class with your girlfriend could be fun if you do it with the right mindset.
Ever try rock climbing/dancing with your girlfriend high? Twice the fun.
I think if you use a drug responsibly and don't let your life revolve around it, than there's no problem.
I go to work, have hobbies, a girlfriend, friends, go on vacations, etc. I love settling down at night with my vaporizer and getting high, though. Since I have other things to do for fun, I can (and have) easily stop using Marijuana and not be bothered one bit.
Videoslave is obviously abusing MJ. It's really unhealthy when you let anything control and be the center of your life. Whether it be TV, computer, or drugs.
First of all, Video, you mentioned you were having suicidal thoughts in another thread. Marijuana can't and won't cure that. You need help for a problem of that nature.
Also, you mentioned a while ago that you don't have many friends/hobbies. I think you should work on that. You're only seventeen, correct? It's not that hard to make friends when you're that age. You'll most likely never see 99% of the kids in your school again after you graduate anyway. If a kid thinks your weird? Just stop talking to him. If you ask a girl out and she tells you to fuck off? Oh well, plenty of other girls. You need to get some priorities man. You're going down a bad path that I've seen many people go down before. The end of that road isn't pretty.
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I have depression and anxitey so I think if I would benfit from this treatment.
I also think some one on this forum that is suffering from emotional distress becuase of me might benfit from marijuana. Pot that I smoke now helps take the edge off obessive thoughts and I get really scared of my sucidual thoughts while high. My life has been geting a little better now that I smoke more then once a week becuase everyday I can think more postive then before but I still have my lows.
Why would you pay more for medical Marijuana when you have some now?
Also, you mentioned a while ago that you don't have many friends/hobbies. I think you should work on that.
What if he's in the same situation as an adult? Would you suggest for him to talk to random patrons on the street, in the library, or on the bus?
I've struggled with being socially inept my whole life and having that handicap can severely hinder your chances of obtaining friendships. It's not that easy and it leaves you withered, bitter, and depressed.
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What if he's in the same situation as an adult? Would you suggest for him to talk to random patrons on the street, in the library, or on the bus?
Start with a 'hi'. That usually helps. And sometimes, people start talking to you by themselves, but if you notice something strange or unusual about them ask them what its for, and so on and so forth.
What if he's in the same situation as an adult? Would you suggest for him to talk to random patrons on the street, in the library, or on the bus?
I've struggled with being socially inept my whole life and having that handicap can severely hinder your chances of obtaining friendships. It's not that easy and it leaves you withered, bitter, and depressed.
You don't make friends by having the goal of making friends. Making friends is usually a byproduct of an activity you're engaged in, be it school, or something recreational. It's indeed difficult to establish friendships if you have no proper baseline, HOWEVER, if you start an activity you enjoy, that is taught in groups, you might find someone there who you can connect with, on a basic level, and then it might develop from there. Martial arts, for instance, is a good way of meeting interesting people, 'cause you get anything from lawyers to truck drivers, you learn something new and go through stuff together. The objective isn't to become friends, but to learn something, and being with a person and focusing on the same thing over periods of time usually instills a sense of friendship.
Obviously if you seem desperate or clingy, you'll be more of a pest than a prospective friend, but if you have someone you meet during an activity (best one would probably be a sport, even though I would suggest a martial art, 'cause the hardships are, well, better for bonding, in my opinion) who you think is cool, then just partner up with them whenever you go there, and before you know it, he'll give you a ride there or stuff like that, and you have conversations that are subtle comparisons of interests, and eventually someone will go "hey, I'm going to a party this weekend, wanna tag along?" or "hey wanna go watch X movie at the theater?". At least that's how it's worked for me.
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You dont need freakin pot for any "medicinal" purposes, you people are dumb to think so.
You want to get high.
If you have pain, there are 476 different medicines out there that help with pain.
And if you are depressed, there is medicine out there for you as well.
(Altho I think some "conditions" are not real like ADD..ok so you cant pay attention, you have a short attention span. People are different)
I also think its wierd that its only as of recent decades people have such things like "depression". Now, I am no certified doctor, and if it is indeed a chemical imbalance, then it is what it is. But I find it wierd that this has only come about in recent years, during the evolution of P.C. culture and the "nothing is your fault its all your parents / societies / other kids at schools fault".
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