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Originally Posted by Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw (Post 4806849)

When you attach yourself to things that dilute the mind, things like drugs and alcohol, your ability to experience peace and happiness is hindered without them.

I stopped smoking cannabis about two months ago and am sober the majority of the time, yet I still cannot find peace and happiness. How can I? We are fucked out of freedom from day one until our death.

Born into the system with a social security number, must adhere to the rules of the elders, we grow up, must then adhere to the laws of the land no matter how irrational or arbitrary they may be, work for some dickhead boss 40 hours a week, deal with shallow retarded co-workers who gab on about reality shows and their kids, forced to pay illegal federal institutions that rob our bank accounts, somehow make peace with our comfortable servitude, grow old, retire and then piss away the rest of our lives by going on carnival cruises with social security funds (which probably won't exist when Generation X/Y retire).

People drink and take drugs to escape this bland, humorless advertising mecca based around the Protestant work ethic.

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I've tried many things such as thearpy, I take an anti depressant and it dosent help so when I smoke marijuana I dont feel depressed and it gets rid of alot thoughts that I shouldnt be thinking about.

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Originally Posted by Jeffro (Post 4806880)

You could just not do these things, like me.

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Originally Posted by Videoslave (Post 4806889)

Your just blocking the thoughts with drugs, there still in there. Sooner or later you'll have to deal with your demons.

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By those standards, heavy drinking or smoking crack will be as useful as marijuana in a medical role. I'm not all that much for medical marijuana, something about getting high to forget about medical problems, escape pain, etc.

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Originally Posted by Octovon (Post 4807018)

I'm not all that much for medical marijuana, something about getting high to forget about medical problems, escape pain, etc.

That's not what medical marijuana is used for. It's an anti-inflammatory and can relieve nausea and pain. Check here for some fairly balanced pros and cons.

Re: medical marijuana should be right for me

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Originally Posted by Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw (Post 4806849)

When you attach yourself to things that dilute the mind, things like drugs and alcohol, your ability to experience peace and happiness is hindered without them.

Don't know about that, drugs and alcohol have given me many interesting insights that I retain and enjoy once the immediate physiological effects of the substance have passed.

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Originally Posted by Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw (Post 4806849)

So, it's my experience that a person who finds it necessary to drink or do drugs in order to have a really good time, has difficulty maintaining the experience of happiness without those things. Their mind is one that affirms that alcohol intake equals a good time, and therefore a dependency on the substance arises in the mind. This is hardly true in all cases... there are many gray areas, like everything in life; but, when a person reaches a point in their life when they desire something lasting, something that isn't just a temporary thrill ride, they'll perhaps come to the realization that alcohol and drugs are merely disguised forms of suffering, because in order to continue enjoying the thrill, you have to keep on doing them.

That's not really to say they're disguised suffering, it's just to say they're temporary aleviations of suffering. If you feel good then you're not suffering, suffering simply is feeling bad.

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Originally Posted by Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw (Post 4806849)

And, what do we know about the long-term effects of constant drug and alcohol use? They aren't good, and in any case can never lead to a true and lasting foundation of happiness. Such a state is only possible when you can learn to still the attachments of your mind and experience life in a state of awareness.

Awareness of what? It seems a rather empty term. If you’re being tortured to death the more aware of it you are the less pleasant it is. It’s not enough just to be aware of the world around you, you have to like that world to begin with and if you stilled all your attachments anything you observed would be devoid of meaning anyway.

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Originally Posted by Nemmerle (Post 4807090)

That's not really to say they're disguised suffering, it's just to say they're temporary aleviations of suffering. If you feel good then you're not suffering, suffering simply is feeling bad.

They're really distractions from the true nature of the self, and I think that's why a lot of people do them, because they don't want to face their internal reality; it's too difficult.

Sorry I'm basing this on my on experience with such matters.

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Originally Posted by Uwsar-Hat-Anupuw (Post 4807092)

They're really distractions from the true nature of the self, and I think that's why a lot of people do them, because they don't want to face their internal reality; it's too difficult.

Whatever I am at any particular time is what I am. If I consume alcohol and become happy then I am happy and that is the nature of my true self in that moment.

There may be something in the idea that a lot of people do them because there's something about their internal reality, or how it relates to the world, that they don't want to change; but have you considered that it may be because they can't face those things? There are a great many questions to which no answer can be given; and causes of depression based on chemical problems or associative conditioning that cannot be solved by introspection. Then there are cases whereby the person might actually value the thing causing them depression. Say you learned that your friend was a murderer; for all it might cause you discomfort it's not immediately clear that you'd even want to be okay with his murdering.

Just looking within doesn’t necessarily provide a solution, it’s possible to look within, see a problem, and have no idea how to fix it.

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Originally Posted by Inyri Forge (Post 4806872)

...or are you really just looking for marijuana to be legalized so you can get high easier?

In Canada, it's really not that hard to get high to begin with...

Although if anxiety/depression/etc became acceptable reasons for smoking medicinal marijuana, you'd simply have more people getting harassed by cops, and more people upset that complete strangers are smoking something they disapprove of. With the federal government we have in power now our pot laws won't be changing anytime soon.

And honestly, if you're constantly depressed/thinking of suicide... go see a shrink.