4768037

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 13th, 2009 07:04 PM

Declawing is inhumane. Is regular nail clipping really such a hassle that you had to resort to chopping the poor cat's fingers off? They don't hurt much when they're blunt.

4768081

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 13th, 2009 07:57 PM

Comparing humans to animals in the sense of laws is completely different because you can actually communication with a human verbally (unless they are deaf).

4768227

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 13th, 2009 09:55 PM

Actually combat dog breeds do not attack humans any more often than other dog breeds.
They merely have the physical assets to actually do the most damage as they were bred for they stamina and damage dealing capabilities.

The most common attacker is actually your lowly dachshund.
The problem with combat breeds is, that they attack problematic breeders.
Most people would not get one, because they are labeled as combat. And very often those that do, do their best to bring the dog's agression forward.

You need to manage the breeders first, dogs second.

Also why the hell did you have you cat declawed?

4768230

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 13th, 2009 10:01 PM

Tell me about it, one of those little guys bit me in the ass. I don't know how it managed to jump high enough to reach my ass but it did. I definitely did not expect it.

4768270

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 13th, 2009 10:55 PM

Seriously, what's the problem with mandatory sterilization of certain dogs that have a higher risk factor? It'd be killing two birds with one stone, helping to reduce the stray dog population and reducing the amount of (severe) dog bite incidents. It's a hell of a lot easier to see and enforce than any sort of "breed certification", you just check to see if anything's danglin' and clip 'em off.


Yes, that only applies to one sex, but I'm still not quite sure how strict this board is on descriptions of female dog's genitalia, and I'm not really sure how much more descriptive I really want to be.

4768331

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 14th, 2009 12:29 AM

I agree with this. Not that i clip the nails of my cat, i just don't see the point. There's a scratching post, she leaves the couch alone. She's not likely to attack and when she does you can always see it coming. There are kids around the house but them nails just teach them pets are not to be fucked around with. That is, if you can't be assed to be enough of a parent to teach them that in the first place.

4769498

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 14th, 2009 06:27 PM

So is neutering inhumane?

Funny thing is my cat was found as a stray when she was 3 weeks old. She was going to be put down, so me and my wife took her. She has been the best cat ever. We can play and do whatever to her and she wont hurt us.

Declawing is not inhumane. It is bad for cats to be outdoor anyways, espically if they have been indoors for a long time. There is no need for claws then since my cat is indoor. My cat does not destroy furniture and can do whatever she wants. She doesnt even know she has no claws.

Have you ever had a cat? You try holding a cat when it doesnt want to be held, let alone hold its paw and clip a claw. If you slip and you hurt them, you hurt them more over the course of their life than a one shot one kill deal of a declaw procedure.
She still has her fingers she just doesnt have the nails in between.

But talking about eligeability to care for another creature, human or animal, crosses species lines.

I would beg to differ based on pure stastics. You hear and can prolly find WAY more instances of pit attacks than a lowly weiner dog.

What the hell does an inside cat need with claws? Other than to destroy the furniture she loves to play with?

4769499

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 14th, 2009 06:35 PM

Is a hysterectomy?

It is inhumane, and declawing has nothing to do with indoor/outdoor cats. None of my cats destroy furniture because we taught them not to and gave them sufficient alternatives.

I have six, all with claws.Don't pick them up when they don't want to be held. I also clip the nails of all six cats. It's very doable, even for the ones that don't like it. Chopping their fingers off because you don't want to do it is really not a good motivation.Don't slip when you're holding them.

Do you actually understand how declawing works? They don't just remove the claws. Please read up on it, something you should have done before deciding to mutilate your pets.

What do you need your fingers nails for? Let's rip them out. That doesn't hurt, right? Have you ever accidentally ripped a nail off? Now take into consideration that a cat's nail is part of its bone, not a separate nail. Let's saw one of your bones in half.

It's unnecessary and cruel.

4769521

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 14th, 2009 06:51 PM

You didnt answer my question. You could stretch it to be "is any medical procedure humane".

So you still feed their urge for destruction instead of eliminating their ability to do it?

Easier said than done. Some cats wont mind it, others will struggle till their last breath.

Ripping off an arm is mutiliation. Taking out a claw is not. And she was getting neutered in the same operation so life sucked for a week as she wore a lamp shade to prevent the neutering stitches from bring messed with and she was on meds. Im sure she doesnt even remember it.

I dont oppose the idea of my nails being removed, dont have to clip them then. And if I got vikes afterward for a week? Hell yea. I'd be fine with it.

Cept that the nail is used also as a form of protection on a sensitive part of the body. Human nails are not needed for any "defense". My cat lives a warm comfortable life inside and can act unrestrained without me worrying about her destroying my furniture. She doesnt have any complaints.

Well if it wasnt for me she would have been euthanised at 6 weeks old. So she doesnt seem to think so.

4769529

Re: Dangerous dogs.

January 14th, 2009 07:02 PM

I think I did answer your question.

They're sharpening their nails, not destroying things for the sake of it. In nature they would do this on trees, for instance.

I have some of both. They're just cats; you can control them long enough to clip 20 nails.

I think chopping a bone in half when it isn't remotely necessary is both mutilation and inhumane.

You'd object the first time you had an itch you couldn't scratch.

She told you that, did she?

Your cat had no idea she would be euthanized. It's a non-point as far as the cat is concerned.