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Nemmerle January 15th, 2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Inyri Forge (Post 4770602)
Yes, because that works for humans, too. ;)

I kept telling my parents we should have my sister neutered but they wouldn't listen =p

Mitch Connor January 15th, 2009 02:48 PM

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You don't think raising animals in prisons, artificially altering their social structure and diets, and then killing them is cruel? If I went around doing that to humans I'd be locked away.
It's cruel in our opinion, but cow's are so stupid they hardly ever know what's going on. And we also altered their behavior, so they really aren't anywhere near like wild animals any more. What else can you do with a domesticated Holstein than eat it (or if it's a heifer milk it)?

Nemmerle January 15th, 2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronald_Jesch (Post 4770618)
It's cruel in our opinion, but cow's are so stupid they hardly ever know what's going on. And we also altered their behavior, so they really aren't anywhere near like wild animals any more. What else can you do with a domesticated Holstein than eat it (or if it's a heifer milk it)?

I could ask much the same question of any domesticated animal.

Mitch Connor January 15th, 2009 08:28 PM

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I could ask much the same question of any domesticated animal.
Each domesticated animals serves a purpose otherwise we wouldn't have bothered to domesticate them. Cat's are used for two reasons, hunting mice and companionship. Dogs are used about the same way, only instead of mice, they take care of larger pests.

Lampshade111 January 15th, 2009 08:34 PM

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Seriously does nobody else here think declawing a cat is something like cheating?

Crazy Wolf January 15th, 2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Huffardo (Post 4770118)
I find keeping a cat indoors all the time inhumane, but declawing, that is in another league. Poor little cat. :'(

Some people just should not be allowed to have pets. :vikki:


Your cat would have been better off dead instead of a life of suffering, but the only real solution would have been to accept it as it was. Some destroyed furniture is to be expected if you have a cat, get a bunny if you prefer having your cables cut.


As a piece of advice, keep quiet about your crime (although declawing actually for some weird sadistic reason seems to be legal in the US), people who mutilate defenseless animals are not popular.

Mutilation seems to be a subject people can be really OK with if it benefits them. Circumcision, while not as popular in Europe, still remains quite common worldwide. Castration of animals is considered A-OK, whether it is to curb unwanted cat or dog populations or to increase beef production (bulls don't always get along with each other, so the cheapest way to take care of the problem is to lop off the bull's balls, normally without anaesthesia, if I recall correctly). Until recently, docking of dog's tails and ears was pretty standard among show dogs (is it still?). Birds routinely have their wings clipped so they can't fly away. Why is declawing different? At least with declawing they have the courtesy of sedation.


I have only owned one cat, she kept all of her claws, and we trimmed them regularly. Declawing isn't something I would like to do, but I can understand why it is done.

Inyri Forge January 16th, 2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Wolf (Post 4771059)
Until recently, docking of dog's tails and ears was pretty standard among show dogs (is it still?). Birds routinely have their wings clipped so they can't fly away. Why is declawing different?

It's not. Ear cropping and tail docking make me sick. They're even worse than declawing. >.>


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