So ... having shoes thrown at him. Was it all he lacked?
 

... I was so astonished to see no thread about that. :eek:

Or is it because here I can only hope to find threads against Asian countries (China, Pakistan, Arabs and Iran) and officially everything against the US president is banned? If that is then ... I don't have anything to say. And if its not, then its good to have at least one place which is "nationalism-free" and unbiased.

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:vikki:

All nations get heat on these forums when warranted including their leaders. But if you want a bit heavier debate, might want to post your thread with the hat throw down in the Pub, but be ready to back up your bitch with a convincing argument not whining and sniveling or you’ll get eaten up.:Pimp:


Anywho...He probably should be fortunate it was shoes not bullets.

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potentialy dangerous...?

IT WAS A SHOE!

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Even though I heavily dislike(lawl) this man, I was impressed with his dodging skills.

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Thats politics for you...

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President by day, super terrorist assassinating ninja by night.

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Do I hear a theme tune?:lol:

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EH, if the shoe was thrown hard enough and was a hard shoe, it could really bruise ;)

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HI HO Dubya…AWAY!

:mEk:

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I think that All enemies of American should be crushed with NO MERCY, for this outragous shoe attack on Freedom!

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I actually noticed more anti american threads on GF than against any other country.
So I doubt anything like that is banned.

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I don't back everything Bush does or says, but I find it odd that this journalist that tossed the fit is so highly regarded by some and even his little boy talking proudly like he wants to go to war to free him. It just goes to show many people in such countries are used to things getting done via chaos rather than democracy.

Many of the Iraqi citizens have thanked the US forces for freeing them from the grip of Hussein. Others that stand out as radicals amongst a mostly conservation nation act like they'd be better off if he were still in power, cowering at his every whim.

This incident vaguely reminds me of how so many people back Putin, regardless of his corrupt ways, just because he boosted their economy. At what price will they enjoy their affluence?

The incident does raise the question in my mind though. If it's the ultimate insult to hit someone with your shoe, what is it if you so badly miss twice in a row? The guy is no doubt feeling a certain amount of humiliation even in his smugness, and deservedly so.

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your right, DOWN WITH SHOES!

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You've got to be kidding me.... you're acting no different than the extremists you seek to purge. Where does that get us to in the end? Of course, if it all was jokes and sarcasm then I take my comment back.

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im pretty serious, my shoes are currently fueling the fire. (we really need sarcasm tabs)

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Yes I can see the fires of war that your shoes fueled in your sig. Fine but I'm not really sure whether Never Surrender was being sarcastic or not.

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All I say is " lol", I'm suprised that this incident made it to the news headlines, and managed/manages to stick around for several days! Just a shoe, nobody got hurt, it made me laugh when I saw it, that's all.

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I don't think it is such an important event that it deserves a serious political discussion.

As for banning of threads against certain countries - lately there are a lot of people here who claim that the forums are biased in some way or other. Where did all the people go who actually discussed things instead of complaining about the incredible bias?

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Yes you must be right and all the Iraqis who hate Bush are wrong.
Reason: You are American (or American ally) and America HAS to be right no matter what.
Is that the only reason you have for justifying your mass killings around the globe? In Vietnam, Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq, Sudan, Afghanistan ...
Talking of Iraq: Ooooh! Those guys have got biochemical weapons and we don't care whether our information is right or wrong. We have the right to invade them because we think they've got the weapons and WE CAN NEVER BE WRONG!
Talking of Afghanistan: Poor Taliban. We raised them with our own hand of love and our own weapons BUT they had to be used against the Russian invasion. Now that the invasion is over, we must take care of them because we can't let an Islamic state grow to power like that! What a shame we still have got neither Mulla Omar and nor that shadow of a man known as Osama.
Talking of Pakistan: The Taliban are hiding in the mountaneous regions of Pakistan and ONCE AGAIN, our information cannot be right. And even if its wrong, who cares? The media is only going to cry if the white people get killed. One can get away with killing as many brown/black people as they want.
Talking of Sudan: The pharmacutical lab must be preparing weapons of mass destruction. Aspirin, quinine, panadol and diazepam might be used as bio-weapons in the future. At least we are free to think so and once again, what we think is right. period!

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Yeah, right. Americans with their culture of peace and tolerance would never use violence to solve problems

Backing Putin because he boosted the economy makes more sense to me than backing Bush because of nationalistic or patriotic sentiments. Sure, Putin isn't exactly the best politician you can imagine, but his actions pale in comparison to those of Bush and his fellows. I would say that more innocent people were imprisoned, tortured or killed because of Bush's actions than due to Putin's little games.


:moved: to the Pub, as this thread may need some stricter rules after a post like this :)

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I just come here for the stereotypes. :rolleyes:

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YOU TOO!!:bouncy:

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not sure about the first quote but the second one is definately(i hope) sarcasm
But seriously why is Bush so badly criticised?Yes he has done ALOT of stupid things but then like everything the good things that are done are never appreciated...

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In Muslim culture the foot is a dirty smelly thing. To step or walk on something is regarded as the ultimate insult and act of defiance. It's why when you see anti-american videos people walking over the flag before/after burning it.

Throwing a shoe at someone there is about the same in the US as someone walking up to someone elses face and flipping them the middle finger.

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ah, i forgot where i heard the foot thing.

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Correction: It was not one shoe, it was two, TWO SHOES OF INFINITE DOOM
-thankfully they were not actual weaponized shoes.

As for Asheekay: I have a feeling they're/ you're just baiting pro-war posters. A quick look in this forum shows a good deal of Bush hate, anti-americanism, and along with various other topics.

As for Bush vs. Putin: saying Bush is worse than Putin is similar to saying poison is better to drink than a big steaming pile of poo. Putin is ex KGB, the USSR intelligence agency that also acted as secret police, silencing political dissidents when asked. Furthermore, he was the leader of the KGB, and was/ might still be the leader of the FSB, which replaced the KGB during the 90's. Putin just barely falls short of openly silencing people who stand against his agenda. Last I recall, people who spoke against Bush didn't drop dead a few weeks later. He transferred his power from the seat of president to his current seat as prime minister and isn't likely to let go, ever; Bush has till early next year to pack up and leave.

G.W.Bush might have done some stupid shit, been irresponsible, been this and that, but he wasn't a pseudo dictator, the people chose Bush, at least the second time round.

As for Iraq: We probably went there for selfish reasons, like making ourselves look better by knocking over a dictator that wouldn't stand a chance against the American warmachine, and oil, oh the oil, that we could sap to pay for the whole thing, maybe a little economy boost too.

The result was chaos, which is preferable to ordered slaughter under a Nazi esque regime, but falls short of democracy in the middle east, by a couple of light years. It's not pretty, but I think that most would prefer a fighting chance to stay alive than a death squad that you have no chance of evading short of leaving the country, and most of your family, and getting a new job, learning a new language, yatta yatta yatta.

Better planning could have saved lives and made for a real transition.

The country is consumed now by people that are hurt and vengeful, only Saddam is dead and there was only one to go around, so they attack the people that weren't hurt as much and they strike back. Ultimately they're pawns, one side being backed by Alqueida and the other being backed by Iran.

On "whites" and their value, racism is as much an issue as people make it to be; it really exists in some places, but not nearly as many as it is claimed to be in. I try to see people as people, and I can, unless people make themselves a stereotype and push it. Basically, stop throwing up the race card when it has as much to do with Iraq as your left hind cheek. The problem in the media, is nationalism, Americans and then the rest of the world, which is probably common for many countries (simply insert country name and then the rest of the world), or maybe it's not; it's something stupid that the media does to catch the attention of the apathetic masses as they await the lottery numbers to come up and free them from lives bound by work and bills and taxes and bullshit and give them real freedom, like it was promised in the constitution.

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I think even Bush haters are tired of talking about him...he's only got a month left.

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He dodged them. Awesome.

You suck, Iraqy shoe-throwing guy.

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Yes well I think having shoes thrown at you is a big insult anywhere. I'd take having shoes pelted at me a lot more seriously than getting flipped the bird.

Really though, big deal. Bush handled the whole thing incredibly well too. He dodged both shoes, kept smiling, joked about it afterward, and even waved off one of his secret service agents. The aftermath in Iraq shows how stupid they are, to be honest. They want the man released? You can't expect someone who tossed shoes at a world leader to be released like that. Even if it wasn't a world leader he could be charged with assault here in the U.S. and that happens to be a felony.

Ironically the other Iraqi journalists tackled the man before U.S. agents could do anything, and as far as I know it is the Iraqi government holding him.

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Right, and good point Afterburner, so to the original post/thread. Guess we can sum this up with a big….WHO GIVES A F’CK…

There are bigger issues to deal with, which is probably why this particular story didn’t hang around much with the media, because Bush handled it with dignity despite the embarrassment, and the Iraqi people also seem to have filed this incident under "what the f'ck-ever”.

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Only thing that stuck out about about the whole event was that the secret service didn't jump in the way of the shoe

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Apparently Bush wouldn't let them.

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No, they quite epicly failed. The guy managed to throw a shoe, reach down, take off his other shoe, and throw it before even a single agent started to react, and it was then that Bush waved him off. The Iraqi journalists by the guy responded a lot more quickly then the secret service.

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so are journalist more dangerous then actual terrorist?

oh wait PUB.

maybe they were not into the conversation because if i had just stand there waiting for something to happen i probably would just fall asleep.

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Would you jump in front of a SHOE that was thrown at George Bush?
plus I don't think it was that lethal.
well a guy with a big gun compared to a dude wielding a shoe is alot more dnagerous to me....

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Well, it's considered an assault.. and if your job is to protect the man, then you have to, if it's only a shoe, why wouldn't you jump in front of it?

What if the shoe had a bomb or something in it? And your body blocked the president from getting severly damaged.

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If it had a bomb...which it didn't i still wouldn't jump. Yeah it's my job but I hate Bush as well as many other leaders and well I would rather keep my skin thanks:p

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Obama would have caught the shoe.

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Then kick the guys ass whilst doing a backflip whilst frying some bannanas and reciting Bethovens 7th sympthony.........

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^Stop the spamming please.

This shoe-attack has an interesting side-effect:
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Bush 'shoe maker' hit by demand
This brand of shoe is now in high demand.

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I'd feel guilty? Seriously Bush isn't the kind of man you'd give your life for, especially not coming up to the end of his term.

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Yeah, i think it is pretty interesting how people disrespect their own leader so much as to throw a shoe at them. guess this is what you get when you don't run the country the way the public wants.

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GWB is now the leader of Iraq? Don't they have enough problems?

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oh, i thought it was a soldier or american reporter, lol. sorry bout that.