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Crusader December 18th, 2008 10:48 AM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
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Originally Posted by Jeffro (Post 4730678)
Sexual frustration.

Well plenty of peopel are sexually frustrated, the dont normally go around killing people.

Aeroflot December 18th, 2008 10:51 AM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
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Originally Posted by Jeffro (Post 4730678)
Going by that logic, the majority of people are inherently tone deaf as well.

And people wonder where all my anger comes from :)

Nemmerle December 18th, 2008 10:57 AM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
Not everyone who hears heavy metal goes out and starts shanking neds with toothbrushes. Tempting though it is to pin all the evils of the world on music I think it would make much more sense to deal with other, more rational, explanations first. Explanations like poverty, war, hopeless existences, and so on.

faro0485 December 18th, 2008 12:30 PM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
Music can have an negative effects on one's body.

Disharmonic sounds/music - such as Rock music and other - can really screw the mind and body up I read.


As for violence in the world, no that is not caused by humans. That is caused by the humans weakness into agreeing to the devils whispers.

Then again when is violence wrong during war against an enemy? Perhaps when it's not needed...

Nemmerle December 18th, 2008 12:46 PM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
I got to here:
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This type of music releases neurons in the brain
Spent a minute laughing myself silly and wrote you off as a crack job who doesn't bother to read the rubbish he's linking.

AlDaja December 18th, 2008 12:47 PM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
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Originally Posted by faro0485 (Post 4730825)
Music can have an negative effects on one's body.

Disharmonic sounds/music - such as Rock music and other - can really screw the mind and body up I read.

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As for violence in the world, no that is not caused by humans. That is caused by the humans weakness into agreeing to the devils whispers.
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K. far(whatever) and the other religious neo-cons don't you folks have a church fundraiser or some shit you need to be attending? Stop spamming us cool people who live in the real world - thanks.

faro0485 December 18th, 2008 02:30 PM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
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Originally Posted by AlDaja (Post 4730849)
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I provided a link to scientific research behind music.

K. far(whatever) and the other religious neo-cons don't you folks have a church fundraiser or some shit you need to be attending? Stop spamming us cool people who live in the real world - thanks.

I am not a Christian. I'm a muslim.

And according to a dictionary, I don't think I'm spamming


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Originally Posted by Nemmerle (Post 4730848)
I got to here:

Spent a minute laughing myself silly and wrote you off as a crack job who doesn't bother to read the rubbish he's linking.

I did not refer to the possible positive effects.

As for your denial:

MuSICA Research Notes: V IV, I 2, Fall 1997

Or perhaps this if you don't like reading:

Institute for Music & Brain Science

Ask those folks.




And if you had read onwards...

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More than one repetition causes the music to become displeasing, and also causes a person to either enter a state of sub-conscious thinking or a state of anger. Dr. Ballam goes on to say that, "The human mind shuts down after three or four repetitions of a rhythm, or a melody, or a harmonic progression." Furthermore, excessive repetition causes people to release control of their thoughts. Rhythmic repetition is used by people who are trying to push certain ethics in their music.

An Australian physician and psychiatrist, Dr. John Diamond, found a direct link between muscle strength/weakness and music. He discovered that all of the muscles in the entire body go weak when subjected to the "stopped anapestic beat" of music from hard rock musicians...

Dr. Diamond found another effect of the anapestic beat. He called it a "switching" of the brain. Dr. Diamond said this switching occurs when the actual symmetry between both of the cerebral hemispheres is destroyed causing alarm in the body along with lessened work performance, learning and behavior problems in children, and a "general malaise in adults." In addition to harmful, irregular beats in rock music, shrill frequencies prove to also be harmful to the body. ... Dr. Earl W. Flosdorf and Dr. Leslie A. Chambers showed that proteins in a liquid medium were coagulated when subjected to piercing high-pitched sounds

You can always reply with Dr Leigh Riby and George Caldwel research of Rock music boosting brain power, but I'd reply with the audacity of Dr Leigh Riby's research promoting fizzy drinks.

Joe Bonham December 18th, 2008 02:40 PM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
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Originally Posted by Trojan_Ripper (Post 4729691)
Can the music and lyrics you listen (and love) be to blame for violence in our lives anymore than the video games we play?

Please feel free to include your type of music (audio/video) for everyone to judge.

I listen to rock and techno.

As for the question -

Music is an expression of a person's thoughts and emotions. A violent man will create violent music, a peaceful man will create peaceful music. Music is created by people, not the other way around.

However, we do know it is possible for a person to influence another person. A man who is worshipped as a celebrity by millions of people will probably have an easy time influencing them. A person like this could use words... or music. Music is like words - it expresses thoughts and ideas.

So my final answer: Does music influence people? No. But can it be used as a MEDIUM to transmit an idea, causing change in another person? Yes! Definitely.

AzH December 18th, 2008 02:48 PM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
I blame easy listening.

AzH December 18th, 2008 02:49 PM

Re: Is music to blame for all the violence in our World?
 
I blame 'easy listening'.


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