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How would you change healthcare, and should there be universal healthcare?

I say only minimal health care, like to treat maybe a hurt, like a cut or sommat. But no genetic healthcare or keeping the weak alive. However nice it may seem, it is causing the pedigree collapse of the human race.

So keeping someone's cancer-infested grandpa alive is going to bring down the pedigree? He isn't breeding anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by NiRv4n4 (Post 4726492)

Wait, did you just say it's much more important to care for a paper cut, than for someone bleeding to death because he just lost both arms?

For those who cannot afford it, basic medical care. For those who can afford medical insurance, private medical insurance. Those who choose to buy their own medical insurance will be exempt for any medical insurance tax. They are not using the system and thus should not have to pay for it.

The government has a habit of making things much more expensive and complicated than they have to be. Universal health care would be worse for everyone's health and pocket book.

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But no genetic healthcare or keeping the weak alive. However nice it may seem, it is causing the pedigree collapse of the human race.

I don't think you would feel the same way if someone in your immediate family was dying of cancer and treatment would give her a few more months to be with their family. It is always easy to argue letting the weak die when you are not personally affected by it.

I would change healthcare by removing the profiteering factions that over rule it.

Diseases and such can be solved simply by better sanitation and organic nutritional practices/promotion.

From there on, natural/herbal remedies for ailments and illnesses exist with a far better success rate than synthetic "remedies".

Once you remove synthetics consumption/pollution, you'll remove almost all disease faced by modern communities. And let me restate it again, nutrition and sanitation prevent illnesses.

You want a cure for cancer? Easy, black cumin seed oil.

You want to have a happy marriage, easy, remove that junk and refined/processed/pasteurized products from your diet.

You want a productive society? Get rid of the out of home school system. And get back to the natural form of home schooling and avoid that pop boob tube for lemmings.

Etc etc etc.

It's unfortunate, that the people are being drugged up and turned into cattle. But with going back to basics, you may end up with some powerful OCP type company doing a metal gear solid 4 on your country, but at least you tried.

Why should I pay for your broken arm anymore than you should have to pay money to all these other charities that you don't?

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Originally Posted by Nemmerle (Post 4726747)

Why should I pay for your broken arm anymore than you should have to pay money to all these other charities that you don't?

Because if you don't have a good health insurance, and you're almost killed in a car crash, then you can wave good bye to your home and all the things you own. And likely also a limb or two.

I like the idea of universal health care in the United States, the problem is though our general health is not that great due to our poor diets consisting of fast foods and such. This can lead to cancers and diseases in which surgeries and treatments are needed which can cost a large sum of money. America needs to cut down on the fast food and exercise so the health care costs in the future can be reduced; even with a reduced military budget universal health care wouldn't be very affordable.

My second point on the reason it wouldn't be a good idea is the amount of illegal immigrants in the country. Would universal health care cover them? If that was the case, we'd see a much larger deficit in the economy, as they already receive a mass amount of government benefits, and can't pay as much back to offset it.

So if we improved on those 2 previous points, we still have another flaw in the idea, and that's the lack of organ donors. We have a lack of organ donors on our current system right now, and with more people having healthcare, how will people get those transplants they need when 1,000 other people need it or 10,000? Then again with the advances in medical technology, this might be a smaller concern as we find news way to treat people, but still a concern never the less.

I'm all for better health care than the crappy system we have now, but when we look at reality and how money works, would the system be able to sustain it?

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Originally Posted by Serio (Post 4726751)

Because if you don't have a good health insurance, and you're almost killed in a car crash, then you can wave good bye to your home and all the things you own. And likely also a limb or two.

Well that's very unfourtunate for you but people dying in the third world are to be honest much more numerous and needy.