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masked_marsoe May 20th, 2008 05:49 AM
Right to strike?
 
Just saw this on BBC
Quote:
Originally Posted by http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7409679.stm
Frontline police officers in England and Wales are set to reveal whether they will demand the right to strike.


Police are currently banned from taking industrial action, but members of the Police Federation have been balloted on whether they want the law changed.


Members are believed to have voted by more than 80% at their Bournemouth conference for full industrial rights.

...
More than 20,000 officers marched on Westminster following Home Secretary Jacqui Smith's pay decision.
...

The police are currently banned from going on strike or taking other action, and any such action is a criminal offence.
And of course I laughed. Who's going to arrest 20,000 police?

But it raises a more important question about industrial relations. Should certain job(-types) be excluded from industrial action?

Tas May 20th, 2008 06:17 AM
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I think everyone should be allowed to "strike" within reasonable bounds, such as the police refusing to appear at a soccer match, forcing it to be canceled. Such things where people do not get hurt.. everyone should be allowed to do it.

Relander May 20th, 2008 06:20 AM
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Every employee should have a right to strike. However there should be restrictions on employees working at police, health care, border guard etc, meaning that they have to maintain certain service level even during a strike. Thus I guess the first option comes closest to my view.

nanobot_swarm May 20th, 2008 01:47 PM
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I think if they don't have a right to strike, then the buisness leaders would take full advantage of the situation, and lower wages

Rich19 May 20th, 2008 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by masked_marsoe (Post 4350389)
And of course I laughed. Who's going to arrest 20,000 police?
Military police, or the army. The army serves as the fire brigade in certain areas last time they were striking, IIRC.

They ought to be able to strike, although perhaps there ought to be restrictions on the number allowed to be on strike at a time.

EDIT - Nanobot, the are already not allowed to strike.

Joe Bonham May 20th, 2008 06:16 PM
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Good poll Marsoe, but I think you need to define it a bit better. What do you mean by "right" to strike?

Now I view, in the context you're presenting it, as a legal right. But in some cases, the legality is pointless. Like you said, if the police goes on strike, what are we going to do? Tell them to arrest themselves?

masked_marsoe May 20th, 2008 06:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bohemund (Post 4351290)
Good poll Marsoe, but I think you need to define it a bit better. What do you mean by "right" to strike?

Now I view, in the context you're presenting it, as a legal right. But in some cases, the legality is pointless. Like you said, if the police goes on strike, what are we going to do? Tell them to arrest themselves?
Heh, it was a 2am poll. I do think I meant legal right, but if you want to discuss the ethics of it (especially, say, doctors striking) go right ahead.

On that note, things like a doctors strike is going to be notified well in advance, giving hospitals time to prepare. We recently had a nation-wide junior doctors strike, and they made sure emergency departments were kept open, while the hospitals paid senior doctors up to $500 an hour to cover shifts.

Joe Bonham May 20th, 2008 07:04 PM
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In the case of doctors, even then, I think the morality would be a bit dubious. All that money spent to pamper their strike could have been used to improve conditions and service in the facilities, or hire more employees.

What if one of those senior doctors working overtime makes a mistake due to fatigue? Then that patient's blood would be indirectly on the strikers' hands.

Nemmerle May 20th, 2008 07:15 PM
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The same argument can be made concerning the revenue lost in any strike.

masked_marsoe May 20th, 2008 07:21 PM
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In the case of doctors, even then, I think the morality would be a bit dubious. All that money spent to pamper their strike could have been used to improve conditions and service in the facilities, or hire more employees.
In that case though, it's the fault of the hospital (or in our case District Health Boards), the doctors don't get to decide their own wages.


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