4351343

Re: Right to strike?

Joe Bonham

May 20th, 2008 07:29 PM

True, but truckers or Walmart employees going on to harm anyone.

Yes, but the doctors have the choice of how to respond.

4351349

Re: Right to strike?

May 20th, 2008 07:38 PM

Indeed, and a strike is never a first resort.

4351358

Re: Right to strike?

May 20th, 2008 07:50 PM

You oculd hold a stike to lets say geting a holiday or 40 hour workweeks (not 60,80 100), but since they go off and want $35 bucks an hour, and every benifet known, then NO !!!!!

picked B

I can't see ANY reason a doctor would EVER go on strike, don't make sense at all, or are you talking about gov run healthcare.

4351453

Re: Right to strike?

May 20th, 2008 10:42 PM

In the US, there are labor laws in place to discourage union strikes over wage related disputes. However, those same laws protect workers from lockouts and other such corporate retaliations when the labor dispute is non-monetary in nature.

I'd have to agree with Relander and Tas. While no person or union should be barred from striking altogether, essential service workers should have restrictions in place; most responsible unions would agree with this. That said, it is rare (at least in the states) to see doctors strike, while it is far more common to see nurses and other healthcare support staff do so.

4351459

Re: Right to strike?

May 20th, 2008 11:00 PM

Unions are voted in by the employees, I don't think other countries do that, not sure.But my moms last boss said "if there is any talk of a union I will close the place down.

My dad worked for a place, tool and die, he was there for about 3 months, they voted in a union, BOOM they just closed and left my dad looking for another job.

but nowdays, all they do is move the factory to China, yay unions.
One plant here went on strike for 2 , 3 months now, it forced GM to close a pile of places, they made a bargain, if they pay the union 200,000,000$ they would agree to go back to work.But in the meantime piles of other people had to collect union paychecks or find another job.
ONE factory caused the problem and affected thousands of people.

They also have a new thing nowdays too.Since the company can't afford to pay all these high wages they are offering buyouts, like 100,000$ for the workers to retire, or just leave.

Hell ya nothing like strong arming your boss and exspect them to be nice, the unions go way too far and now we pay the price.It's not all corperate greed, a lot of people have the exact same greed, and money don't grow on trees.

4352206

Re: Right to strike?

May 21st, 2008 01:51 PM

Money may not grow on trees but the slave labor still being used is just as abundant then as it is now. Business screwed your Dad over (that and a lack of protectionism in the third world), not his union.

4352217

Re: Right to strike?

May 21st, 2008 02:01 PM

I would laugh so hard, if all of Americas military forces went on strike, just as World War 3 initiates. That would be... pretty bad. Everyone but essential i think.

4352347

Re: Right to strike?

May 21st, 2008 03:19 PM

Well he started before the union was voted in, but another place he worked at he said you can take your union dues, but I will not be a part of the union.

People think the union is for the worker, but people don't understand how exspensive and time consuming hiring an employee is.The way it is done is you get cash they get service, the more they sell the more each makes.

but since unions strong arm a company what happens is special groups of people get paid more than what they should.Then everybody suffers from high prices all because some greedy people are getting more than they are worth.
Then the company rather than just selling stuff and creating work, it becomes an ,us against them.Then the employer becomes gun shy and yes a union has to strong arm them to FORCE what they want.

It's not the day of the sweatshops, which was a good reason to form unions, nowdays it just screws up everything for the employers, employees, and the customers.

4352498

Re: Right to strike?

May 21st, 2008 05:41 PM

In the days America wrote the Capitalist Manifesto (great book by the way, go read it! ^_^ ) working conditions were better than they are today and the working week was much shorter.
We've walked forwards with companies taking more and more and what reward have we been allowed for it? The dollar now is worth to the average middle class man in America around 4 cents of the worth of the old dollar when congress created the Federal Reserve. You speak of unions strong arming companies but unions have allowed companies an awful lot of slack in the things they have taken and the common man sees awful little in return for this other than the value of his savings ever degrading as government creates more money out of nowhere dilluting the power of his currency and grants this money into the pockets of big business displacing his profits into the hands of a few elite.
It's time the unions grew some balls and stopped letting themselves be pushed around more than anything else.

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Re: Right to strike?

Joe Bonham

May 22nd, 2008 12:16 AM

But would it be moral to risk physical harm to innocent people because you have a pay problem?