4003160

October 28th, 2007 03:41 AM

You don't need bullets, you just need concentration extermination camps.

That was just to show you that genocide isn't the way. Everyone thinks "nazis are the most evil people on earth", well, they are one of the people/movements that used genocide. And if you know a little history, you know it didn't resolve anything.

Trying to achieve world peace by genocide is just weak. It's using the easiest way of achieving your goal, without caring for the millions of human lives you're about to end. I don't think anyone would think of genocide as a solution if you were amongst the innocent victims.
Sure, it might be a solution in some cases, but it just shouldn't be. The fact only that you have to kill to achieve it already should make you deny that solution.

I am popping into the discussion late again.

4003487

October 28th, 2007 09:01 AM

It however is not efficient, just like genocide. If one's foot hurts, one doesn't cut off one's leg. Even that doesn't guarantee no more pain, as the root of the problem might be somewhere else.

4003702

October 28th, 2007 11:55 AM

ultimately all problems stem from the head, because it is where all problems are perceived, so in this satirical analogy of over-extremism and lunacy, lopping one's head off would solve a head ache, after one died anyway.... The thing is, you aren't there to receive relief from that pain by the time it stops, you're dead.

4003706

October 28th, 2007 11:58 AM

Genocide is more like if your neighbor keeps stepping on your foot, dont just buy more icy hot, just kill your neighbor

4003719

October 28th, 2007 12:09 PM

well technically... you kill them, their family and all people of similar genetics or geographical location, because they stepped on your foot

4003800

October 28th, 2007 12:53 PM

No, the neighbor example was an example, illustrating what you do, where you represent your ethnic group and your neighbor represents another. In that example, killin their family and people of similar genetics means that instead of killing, say, all Spaniards, you'd kill all Spaniards, Portugese, French, Germans, Italians, Mexicans, Filipinos, etc.

4004000

-DarthMaul-

October 28th, 2007 03:21 PM

Dont forget Primates, thier genetics are also close to our own as humans :|

4004184

October 28th, 2007 05:30 PM

The point of my comment wasn't numbers, it was that people are individuals, not clones with like minds and actions

4004483

October 28th, 2007 09:54 PM

Bad analogy, very bad one. Edit: It's not a bad one, it's not an analogy to genocide at all, because that analogy presents the killed as the true trouble makers and the killing as simply a radical way of stopping the "trouble makers".


Your neighbour keeps stepping on your foot. You are fed up and kill him, his family and all his relatives. That's genocide. One fails or is unwilling to locate the exact trouble maker(s), generalizes and then tries to eradicate the alleged trouble makers.

And even then one has to question, might there have been a reason for that neighbour to step on one's foot? Could it e. g. have been due to one punching that neighbour's face the whole time? Who is the real cause of the problem?

4004502

October 28th, 2007 10:21 PM

I fail to see how that is a bad analogy. There might be some cause behind the neighbor stepping on your foot, but generally humans have piss-poor memory for things, especially when they involve guilt. So, if you forget the cause of your neighbor stepping on your foot(you crushed his foot with a car, making his stance wider than he is used to or something), then it'd appear to you like he was at fault. If you think he's at fault due to your poor memory, then according to you, they are the troublemaker. It ain't right, but it works(ish).

Hell, it doesn't take long for a nation to forget the reasons behind certain problems, the Holocaust is the best example of this; scapegoating Jews for the problems caused by the previous government(s), after only 20 years. 20 years! That's nothing! That's an age a cat or dog can reach! That's the time span it takes to get a human to adulthood, that's zilch, 1/3 or 1/4 of the life expectancy of the 1st world!