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Crazy Wolf August 31st, 2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Hertz (Post 3894270)
What do you think causes and encourages this competetive attitude in academics? That's right, the SYSTEM!

No. People naturally compete against each other. It is a lot more obvious during adolescence, but competition is what made evolution work.

J-Hertz August 31st, 2007 10:16 PM

Keep in mind, Social Darwinism being involved with evolution is only theory; as is evolution it's self.

So what exactly is the point of intelligence if we can't even overcome our emotions (thus, Survival of the Fittest), and work towards unity? I believe competition in academics is one of the most pointless ideas yet. Everyone should be given the exact same opportunities, and that includes the chance to exceed one's own intellectual limits that almost appear to be placed by the social hierarchy within schools themselves.

It is -wrong- to classifiy intelligence within social structures, as is giving the so-called 'gifted' more opportunity than 'average' students.

P.S. I use the terms 'gifted' and 'average' strictly in theory, and against my own good judgement.

nanobot_swarm September 1st, 2007 04:28 AM

By the way, when you said that "gifted" or "smarter" students would talk fancy words to less "intelligent" ones, you are wrong, that is a stereotype created for telivison (same with the nerds, and jocks, and prepies)

J-Hertz September 1st, 2007 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nanobot_swarm (Post 3894762)
By the way, when you said that "gifted" or "smarter" students would talk fancy words to less "intelligent" ones, you are wrong, that is a stereotype created for telivison (same with the nerds, and jocks, and prepies)

Well, that's not entirely true. Those with a more diverse vocabulary tend to intimidate others. It's not a sin to know a lot of words, it's just a habit by some to use more descriptive words.

Crazy Wolf September 1st, 2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nanobot_swarm (Post 3894762)
By the way, when you said that "gifted" or "smarter" students would talk fancy words to less "intelligent" ones, you are wrong, that is a stereotype created for telivison (same with the nerds, and jocks, and prepies)

I am guessing by this post that you either didn't go to elementary school, didn't test above average in anything academic, or just didn't pay attention.

J-Hertz September 1st, 2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Wolf (Post 3895891)
I am guessing by this post that you either didn't go to elementary school, didn't test above average in anything academic, or just didn't pay attention.

Flame, much?

Perception is a powerful tool, do not misjudge it with biased statements such as that.

nanobot_swarm September 1st, 2007 03:50 PM

I've been to 2 seperate elemenarty schools (I moved) there was nothing in either that was suggested on TV, I get honors I'll let you know!
The middle school I went to was nothing like the ones on TV. if the TV show writers wanted an acurate middle school settings, they would include swearing, not mentaly ill teachers, smokers, assholes, whores, gays, and lesbians

Crazy Wolf September 1st, 2007 05:33 PM

So you never beat on a kid or were beaten or threatened or harassed because of academic aptitude? You must be in a much nicer environment than me, or anyone I've come into contact with.

Time2KILL September 1st, 2007 06:28 PM

I love the way most of the posters here are trying to act smart now. Ha it makes me laugh inside. Typical insecure people.

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I am guessing by this post that you either didn't go to elementary school, didn't test above average in anything academic, or just didn't pay attention
Well he isn't wrong, a lot of movies/tv shows do stereotype...

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The middle school I went to was nothing like the ones on TV. if the TV show writers wanted an acurate middle school settings, they would include swearing, not mentaly ill teachers, smokers, assholes, whores, gays, and lesbians
I had a mentally ill teacher, I knew smokers, most of the kids were assholes (and still are), there were a few "whorish" girls, there were kids who were gay but didn't know it/didn't develop yet.

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Perception is a powerful tool, do not misjudge it with biased statements such as that.
Shut up that just doesn't make sense...

J-Hertz September 1st, 2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Time2KILL (Post 3896288)
I love the way most of the posters here are trying to act smart now. Ha it makes me laugh inside. Typical insecure people.

Well he isn't wrong, a lot of movies/tv shows do stereotype...

I had a mentally ill teacher, I knew smokers, most of the kids were assholes (and still are), there were a few "whorish" girls, there were kids who were gay but didn't know it/didn't develop yet.

Shut up that just doesn't make sense...

That's nice, but flaming and acting like an eight-year old won't make you look intelligent.

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So you never beat on a kid or were beaten or threatened or harassed because of academic aptitude? You must be in a much nicer environment than me, or anyone I've come into contact with.
I have personally never witnessed another be harassed due to his/her academic achievements. That's an overly used cliche', to be honest.


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