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Old July 4th, 2007   #1
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Default At the edge of another world war.

I've been watching the news lately along with other talk shows such and I fear the worst for this nation and perhaps the world. What I'm about to state is my theory of what will happen to this nation and the world:

I believe Russia is nearing a state of alliance with Iran. Though I believe it will remain secret for awhile to the public, intelligence agencies would know of this. The reason for this alliance is 1, because of Putin, and 2, because Russia boosts its economy by selling various weapons to Iranian terrorists. The reason the US wont engage Iran for the time being is because of this "secret alliance" but eventually we will have no choice... When and if the US seeks war on Iran the Russians will immediately Ally with them. When this happens, England will ally with the United States along with several other NATO countries. Then, China and Korea ally with Iran and Russia. Boom... we have another World War.
Although most of the war would be fought in the middle east, I believe we will see a series of terrorist uprising inside the US, England and other nations. Eventually, the war would be spread through out all of Asia and on a new front: outerspace. The US would deploy a series of DEW's on satelites while China perfects its ICBM systems. Perhaps this generation will see what could have happened in the Cold War.

Is my theory "out there" or does it seem legitiment. Feel free to post your own thoughts on the future of this world and where we may be headed with the war in Iraq.

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mmm...

I live for the moment.

But here is my theory:

I don't think russia would try taking on the US, even with allies like china and Iran. I don't think anyone (beside fanatical terrorists) will ever use nuclear weapons on a massive scale to fight a war. They know that nuclear weapons do more damage than good and most countries only have nukes so that they can have MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) protection.

But this is just an "off-the-top-of-my-head" guess of the future. So please don't take me seriously on this topic.
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I got part Russian in my blood, so me and my family can move there to my dad's side of the family and I'm safe no matter what...

But, generally, I expect soon Japan or such to become the new 'U.S', America lives for the moment, and the moment is soon to end....

This may be the beginning of my theory...

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I think we could get Russia on our side, if not at most stay neutral. I don't see them going with the terrorists, they are a civilized country.

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Putin might be getting kinda fascist, but I can"t think that he"d try to ally with Iran, if it does happen, it might be a three or four-way war, but I don"t see Russia and Iran as more than just business associates. I could imagine Iran supporting the Chechens in their fight.

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If only North Korea allied with US, then everything would be ok. If I was bush I would try and make peace with them. With North Korea and US together there would be no wars because everyone would be scared.

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If only North Korea allied with US, then everything would be ok. If I was bush I would try and make peace with them. With North Korea and US together there would be no wars because everyone would be scared.
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There is really no point for north Korea to try and start a war anyways because they are surrounded by Japan and China. China and Japan would go on USA's side if NK started a war because they know that if USA nukes NK then the fallout would spread over the entire area thus contaminating the Chinese/Jap gulf ocean.
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hmm, interesting theory though it exist without taking into account the various money angles of everything concerned.

On the Iran front, you have a belligerent nation that is surrounded on 3 sides by ANOTHER belligerent nation. The US currently has unobstructed access to Iranian targets via the Persian Gulf, A-stan, and Iraq.
In addition, without American presence. Iran is still near such historical enemies as Saudi, Iraq, and Israel not to mention its own unsettled population.

Russia isnt an ally anybody needs. Russias 'alliance' will consist of nothing more than offering to sell you weapons. they WONT be sending a naval force, and air force or a land force to support you. If you have the cash, they will give you toys to play with though.

China isnt about to ally with Iran in the face of their largest trade partner, the US. The 80 Billion or so a year the US alone contributes to Chinas growing economy will ensure that if anything, Chinas actions will be neutral if not US-beneficial.

Basically you have a nation surrounded by powerful-ass opponents, a lack of comparable military strength and a hopeful alliance made up of countries that might help you equipment wise provided you pay through the nose for it.

North Korea will remain a non-issue as the US can effectively bribe them from taking point either way. The Norks need fuel, food, and aid. the US is willing to provide so long as they STHU and GBTW so to speak.

As far as a potential nuclear exchange? no way. It doesnt benefit anyone that has the ability. The US isnt about to pop nukes into China because of business interest alone and China isnt about to engage in the same for similar reasons. It doesnt help that China is more vulnerable to such attacks than the US would be in any event. The age of large scale convential war between the super powers is over. Whats happening NOW is the future. War through proxy and war through asymmetrical means. The war in A-stan bled into Iraq which may bleed into Iran but one thing will remain certain, the war will remain in the undeveloped countries periodic terrorist attacks notwithstanding.

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I agree.

I can see Russia and China sending buttloads of planes, tanks, and missiles to Iran but it would be quite another thing to send their own troops there.
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There's only one way that scenario's ever going to play out,
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Even politicians have too much to lose from that sort of thing. As long as powerful nations have nuclear weapons I don't think we're going to see another world war. The minute it looked like someone was going to lose that someone would nuke everything they could reach.

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