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john_doe2 June 28th, 2007 04:58 PM

Human rights for chimps?
 
Ladies and gentlemen, I kid you not. This is an actual news story. Though old, it is still utterly shocking:

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=688922007

Now, I have to ask myself, are these scientists totally wacko? What's next? Are they going to give chimps the right to vote too? Maybe these scientists are seeking a new voter block so they can push their own political agendas. Now politicians will have to start campaigning for the chimp voter block. This is amazing. I can't wait to see what these crazy scientists come up with next.

Vbasic June 28th, 2007 05:45 PM

Well now, not as crazy as the environmentalists... SAVE THE SHRIMP, SAVE THE ANTS

N88TR June 28th, 2007 08:09 PM

They're animals. Fuck em. I know that scientifically speaking, the chimps are really smart but they're just animals at the end of the day. What about the laboratory mice?! What about their rights?!!! ROFL.

Roaming East June 28th, 2007 08:48 PM

The moment an animal pleads eloquently for their rights, I will heed them. Until then, get back in the fridge and shutup.



unless its a cow. They taste too good.

Locomotor June 28th, 2007 09:42 PM

Have any of you put any actual thought into the issue of animal rights? Because it is a very scientific, moral, and philosophical subject, that deserves much more consideration than is being shown in here. I suppose it's real easy to obey Genesis, however serious discussion of the topic begins with thought.

Relander June 29th, 2007 01:38 AM

Sure animals have some rights but I'm not that worried about those raccood dogs and minks that end up as furs. Moreover it would be somewhat hard for me to turn into vegetarian.

MrFancypants June 29th, 2007 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locomotor (Post 3761153)
Have any of you put any actual thought into the issue of animal rights? Because it is a very scientific, moral, and philosophical subject, that deserves much more consideration than is being shown in here. I suppose it's real easy to obey Genesis, however serious discussion of the topic begins with thought.

:agreed

In many cases animals display many of the characteristics that we use as justification for human rights.
And even if that may sound unpleasant, there are cases of mental retardation that make certain animals more intelligent than some people, so intelligence can't be the deciding factor. DNA perhaps, but then again 99% of DNA is identical to that of a dog, or so I have heard.

Granting animals rights (not necessarily human rights) makes sense if you ask me as it will improve the awareness people have for their environment and maybe make them behave more responsible or think in cases where they are just following animal instincts.

john_doe2 June 29th, 2007 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locomotor (Post 3761153)
Have any of you put any actual thought into the issue of animal rights? Because it is a very scientific, moral, and philosophical subject, that deserves much more consideration than is being shown in here. I suppose it's real easy to obey Genesis, however serious discussion of the topic begins with thought.

Yes I have. And I have come to the simple conclusion that animals don't need human rights. Sure, they can have "animal" rights, but "human" rights? I don't think so. There are some areas of the world where there are humans who are denied human rights.

john_doe2 June 29th, 2007 06:51 AM

And I am not one for intelligent discussion because I am not that intelligent. But I love poking fun at absurdity. If any of you actually think we need to give animals human rights, then you are obviously out of your mind.

Covin Narcissus June 29th, 2007 07:05 AM

As was stated in the article, "...If you start, where do you stop? Being human is unique and nothing to do with biology. Mice share 90 per cent of human DNA. Should they get 90 per cent of human rights? And plants have more DNA than humans. Chimps can't speak, but parrots can - should they have rights too?"

Maybe if we made chimpanzee rights, or something, but then again we could make gorilla rights, dolphin rights, etc. we have draw the line somewhere and doing that would get complicated and out of control.


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