Do you know how the US government is treating the 'heroes' of the Iraq war? the Injured ones are placed in rooms with mould, cockroaches, and rats, for Goodness sake. You dont call that shit?
George Bush, contrary to popular beleif, isn't in sole controle of the United States, the congress still functions to balance power and is the reason why Bush's actions go through. Also, I haven't quite seen girls killed by the mob (masses, not the mafia) and said actions supported by the government like what happened in Iran after said girls were raped. Nor are the nation's people (by majority) starving to death as foreign aid money is given to nuclear weapons like in North Korea.
Agree with Iraq or not, it has happened, Sadam Husseign, who tortured to death 270,000 (arguably 170,000 depending on whether or not the people are viewed as "deserving" of such) people is gone, and the people are better for it. It is better to die by a bullet, than a meat grinder, or slow shock treatments, or worse yet to know that your family will die just as you are about to, in the same torturous ways.
The injurred find themselves in many situations, some in major hospitals, some in run down facilities, it's a sad situation, but it's not helped by the people at home calling them warmongers, killers, and all manners of evil things, because they do not understand war, or the cost of war, or the gifts it can bring.
We have attempted to give the Iraqis freedom, but they are now only concerned with getting revenge on "the others", or those not like them, which is the only way they can identify friend or foe. This paranoia and hatred is tearing Iraq apart, and as soon as we leave, we can expect the country either to wipe itself out, or Iran to simply come in and wipe out the Sunnis, taking control of Iraq and it's oil fields and putting them to their own use.
EDIT: Towards Rich, the United States used 2 atomic weapons on an enemy because they expected 2 million American soldier casualties, and may I remind you, soldeirs are civilians in their time off, and have families and friends and people who depend on them. We saved their lives at the unfortunate cost of civilians. Humanity was in it's first steps of mass destruction, and now everyone knows the cost. Nuclear weapons are far more powerful than anything we have ever built to actually use, and our leaders (the US president and Congress) are aware of it's power, and it's price, but the mad have no care for life so long as it is not their own.
Last edited by Chemix2; March 10th, 2007 at 06:39 AM.
If you look at the same ice core samples Gore references, they show a correlation between CO2 and temperature. But what Gore doesn't tell you is that the CO2 increases after the temperature increase, which there is about an 800 year lag.
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Remind me which is the only country that has used nuclear weapons against an enemy?
So if a cop shoots a man who tried to kill him, that makes him a villain?
I think your logic a bit peculiar. According to your own reasoning, your countrymen are war criminals as well, because they participated in equally destructive bombings against Germany.
"You can kill my body, but you can't kill my soul. My soul will live forever!"
CO2 comes from all industry, all cars, and anything else that uses any sort of fossil fuel. And so science shows us that C02 levels have sky rocketed within the last century and a little more...funny how within that last century there was this thing called the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
Yet - what do more conservative minded political figures and economic figures have to lose? Well if people stop driving cars, buying gasoline, and using less electricity and energy...all those electric companies, car dealerships, oil companies, etc will lose ALOT of money - funny how that works doesnt it?
Yes - it's true that every so many years an Ice Age happens on Earth when the world will heat up and then cool down etc...but what's happening is that humans are speeding up that process...not causing it..it'll happen no matter what - we're just easing the process a little.
Alright I'll respond to this post in particular however it is in regaurds to what everyone has said. Ya know I don't know if you know this but certain types of termites generate more CO2 in one year than many of our cars. The termites generate something like 25 tons of carbon emmisios each year for a single termite. Cows are the leaders in methan production so what i'm gathering from this is that not only are we harming the earth but cows and termites are also harming it. Serioulsy guys come on.
The earth goes through cycles we just came out of the "little iceage" less than 200 years ago. Temperatures were on average 3 to 4 degrees colder than they are today yet before this there was a warming period where temperatures were slightly warmer than they are today. The fact of the matter is we came out of that CYCLE which is exactly what this global warming bullshit is. I don't understand how people can hang on the words of these controversial reports about global warming when not even all the scientists agree about it, let alone the leader of green peace.
The real problem here is not global warming however; it is the right of people everywere to second guess global warming. Every day people bang and harrass the nay sayers of global warming and try to stamp their voice out when they are entitled to voice their opinion. I persoanlly don't care that many of you think its real but I do care that the people who belive in global warming acuse people who don't believe in it as being enviroment recking, burn all the coal you can, sure dump you toxic waste right into this lake, earth destroyers. Just becase you don't agree with it doesn't mean you don't want to save a tree or two. Now if you don't believe that this happens just go back and look at the first several posts and even the post above. There's a bigger picture to this entire situation and it concerns my right to dissagree and see things from a diffrent perspective.
The real problem here is not global warming however; it is the right of people everywere to second guess global warming. Every day people bang and harrass the nay sayers of global warming and try to stamp their voice out when they are entitled to voice their opinion. I persoanlly don't care that many of you think its real but I do care that the people who belive in global warming acuse people who don't believe in it as being enviroment recking, burn all the coal you can, sure dump you toxic waste right into this lake, earth destroyers. Just becase you don't agree with it doesn't mean you don't want to save a tree or two. Now if you don't believe that this happens just go back and look at the first several posts and even the post above. There's a bigger picture to this entire situation and it concerns my right to dissagree and see things from a diffrent perspective.
Absolutely agree 1,000,000% Anyone who disagrees with the global warming dogma are practically considered on the same level as holocaust deniers. How dare we give disenting opinions! It's absouletely silly. Either we accept that global warming is fact, or we are neo-conservative talking heads funded by the Oil Companies and Bush's propaganda machine. Any scientist that dissents with the global warming theory is demonized. Proves that times and people don't change much, Galileo must have gone through the same thing, except the Church that we are facing is the Church of Global Warming.
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