Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

Who to believe? One side says one thing, another side says another thing. One side gives info, than the other side shows why it is false and presents it's own information, and than the first group shows why it is false. Quite frankly, neither side presents a convincing argument so for now I will continue down the "Who gives a fuck?" route.

Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

Yes, but "Who gives a fuck?" means do what we do now and see what happens...

Maybe the Netherlands (and other countries/regions below sea level) are doomed and we cannot prevent the ultimate climate change.

But to say "Welcome to the Alps, Donutz!" is easy. Saving the Netherlands will probably cost some money, indeed.

Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

we'll manage, don't worry.

Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

Who's to say it's a myth? What if it is? Does this mean that we should continue to destroy our planet because we can? I don't think so.

Myth or not, we can't be doing good things when we dump poisons in the air, water and earth. It's not just hurting the planet, but ourselves as well.

Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

I know that the people of the Netherlands have always been very inventive.

But much land of your country has been gained from the sea. And the sea can easily take it back if the water rises.

I live in Schleswig-Holstein, Northern Germany, and my country is quite similar to the Netherlands.
I think about buying a house. But it should be high above sea level.

If the water comes I will still have a house on an island, better than nothing...

Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

By 1:09, I knew that the video was bullshit; the ice cores show that CO2 minor rises and falls have had no affect on temperatures, but today the CO2 rise is parralelled if not matched by temperature rise. The fact is, CO2 is more dense than O2, hense why it has a C in front; representing a carbon attom. For each atom, and it's atomic mass, it takes longer for such molecule to increase in vibration speed, but at the same time, it also holds that vibration longer because that extra Carbon atom keeps the other two vibrating because it's still vibrating. So it takes longer to heat up and cool down.

Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

Indeed, that's why at the beginning the engineers that designed the draining of lakes to get land and the diking around lakes and seas were belgian.:rolleyes: :p But it is commonly known that the netherlands is a wealthy country, so they'll manage :).

I don't think that theory would go on such extreme and long lasting effects.

The original composition of our atmosphere was perfect to let enough short-wave (sunrays/warmth)radiation into the atmosphere and to reflect a certain waves like some dangerous UV radiations. Those radiations that can enter are absorbed by the earth and it warms it up, with a little help from our hot planet core. The earth then casts it out as long-wave radiation (infrared waves) which is the warmth we feel on a sunny day (no, most of the warmth we feel does not come from direct sunray, but from earth radiation). But this genius system would have been useless without a certain amount of CO2 in our atmosphere, otherwise the warmth would just ascape to space instantly. So, the CO2 holds a certain amount of the long-wave radiation inside the atmosphere (that is to escape a while later to be renewed) to keep temperatures. This whole, very vulnerable cycle keeps the earth at approximately 15°c, which is the ideal temperature for life here. And it is that which we are destroying. With the amazingly increasing amount of CO2, too much long-wave radiation is trapped inside and we get too much warming.

You have your info ;). We saw this at school for geography, and i like geography, so there's but a minor chance i have gotten something wrong or forgotten something here.

Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

Either way, we're running out of what wonderful planet-killing materials we're using. Natural gas reserves in the North Sea are depleting and if the rest of Europe doesn't cough up money to pay for what's left, then we can kiss goodbye to gas cookers.

Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

Everything is all the sudden a myth these days. Brillant scientist trying to move forward by going backwards to go forward again. Write themselves into the history books.

Re: Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070401...t_070401224357


Good thing the global crisis is just a myth. News like this might be worrisome.