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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Dursk
January 23rd, 2007 08:50 AM
I think that America is ready for a woman President. Although I don't vote in elections I see Nancy Pelosi as the American people warming up to the Idea. That coupled with the Clinton admisitration being one of the most sucessfull terms, certainly far more sucessful than this current administration, I don't think that people will have a hard time casting there vote for Hillary Clinton.

I have to say it was very smart of her not to divorce Bill R Clinton. It might have been a political move yet...it was smart. Whe showed that she and her husband were of one mind, and that she herself is a forgiving person and that is perhaps what people will remember at the voting booths.
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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Roaming East
January 23rd, 2007 09:11 AM
Pelosi? I just cant see it happening. The next few elections are going to be determined by the fence riders. The hardcore party-liners will vote their candidate in no matter who it is, Satan Hitler or a duck, but the 10-15% of voters who DO care about issues, in general, havent been too favorable in their opinion of Pelosi thus far. Granted she is newish at her job. Hillary has a better shot simply through name recognition. Funny, our leaders are shaping up to be Bush,Clinton Bush Clinton...ruling families indeed.
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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Dursk
January 23rd, 2007 09:19 AM
Don't be so sure. This admistration has shown the people of America that hardliners are just as bad a term for American politics as they were For Soviet politics.

The President acknoledge that America was exhausted of this line of thinkinga after the radical restructuring of the house that won the Democrats superiority.

Has that attitude changed? I doubt it. Bush as oreinted additional troops into the Iraqi region and a week later his public opinion dropped further to what has to be approaching or exceeding the lowest approval rating since Nixon.

In order for the Democracts to have taken such decive control means that the people have spoken. It's their REPS they voted for. Those hardliners evidently had a huge change of heart after so many sons and daughters are dying in what is this generation version of Vietnam..

Everyone's asking why are we there. Bush has displayed to the people that he has not changed. I don't think Rumsfeld's firing will be anywhere near enough.

I do agree about the ruling families...Perhaps the American people think that like values run in family structures.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't one Presidential Candiate run on the Idea of "raising the village" I thought that was Clinton.
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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Elektrofaust
January 23rd, 2007 10:46 AM
Ha. Women shouldn't be involved in politics...
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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Dursk
January 23rd, 2007 11:11 AM
That's not a very political correct point of view.
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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Tas
January 23rd, 2007 11:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elektrofaust View Post
Ha. Women shouldn't be involved in politics...
And racist/sexist bigots shouldn't be posting on forums, yet they are..
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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Relander
January 23rd, 2007 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saquist
This admistration has shown the people of America that hardliners are just as bad a term for American politics as they were For Soviet politics.

The President acknoledge that America was exhausted of this line of thinkinga after the radical restructuring of the house that won the Democrats superiority.
In general, most of the voters are close to political center in both sides of the spectrum and that is why the Republicans and Democrats have come closer to this point.

I don't think the Democrat election victory was that much about Republican hardliners than the war in Iraq and getting tired on long Republican rule since 1996, during which time the Republicans controlled both chambers of Congress (except in short period of 2002-2004).

It might be so that the Democrat victory at last Autumn wasn't that beneficial for their presidential race. As they're now holding both chambers of Congress, they can't blame the Republicans anymore about America's misfortunes as they now have the power. Sure they can blame Bush for vetoing their proposals, but the voters would propably see this as inefficiency. The Democrats will propably now keep relatively low profile and deepen their cooperation with Bush administration before the presidential race.

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Originally Posted by Elektrofaust
Ha. Women shouldn't be involved in politics...
No matter the fact that majority of Americans are women? No matter the equality, freedom & rights? If you can't answer to my question or provide any arguments for your stance, then you should propably not take part in the discussion in the first place.
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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Dursk
January 23rd, 2007 01:17 PM
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It might be so that the Democrat victory at last Autumn wasn't that beneficial for their presidential race.
I see that too. I have doubts that America will simply had over control of the country to the Democrats enmass....It sounds farfetch but I think this admistration could drive them to that end. IT's not quite a toss up I see it leaning to the Democratic Party but theres a whole year of mess ups that the democrats and Republican have to endure. We'll see what happens.

I have to not though...there seemed to be a different attitude with Nancy's swearing in. The kids the speech...It all seemed different. The invovlment and the surface level bi-party talks...It seemed like a real change. I think she's brought something refreshing to the office. I think people saw her values something we don't always...heck rarely see in the males in office.

I have to think..Are women this large, a group to embrace on of their own and are there enough males that would follow suit...Maybe not this round but I believe that by running she's opening doors. The image the idealogy, its all changing...she'll have a place in history one way or another...

I say smart woman.
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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Roaming East
January 23rd, 2007 01:40 PM
and the inevitable revolution inches that much closer.









kidding of course...or AM I? duh duh duuuuuuh
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Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
Elektrofaust
January 23rd, 2007 06:36 PM
Quote:
And racist/sexist bigots shouldn't be posting on forums, yet they are..
How am I a racist? Just because I don't think women should take command all of a sudden I'm a racist?...Sexist maybe, but racist? Don't put words or tell me what to do kid, because I don't appreciate it.
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