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Deanoz January 22nd, 2007 11:16 PM
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I long for the day that being black, or being a woman, or in a religion, will not be a factor and will not be an issue in who becomes elected into a certain position. Tell me how they are relevant to doing the job.
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The President of the United States is the hardest job in the world, the fact that you disagree with Bush is irrelevant, but he couldnt be a "incompetent douchebag" and handle the amount of things the President does on a daily basis.
Waging an unnecessary war for one.

Anyway, I think experience is a very fair prerequisite for earning my vote. However, more time is needed before I actually lean the way of any of the candidates.


Now, if Natalie Portman ran for president, I would do anything in my power to make sure she won, and to make sure that I would be the first ever first man :)

Jill January 22nd, 2007 11:31 PM
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I honestly think that Hillary has a good chance at getting the White House. I don't think Obama has enough experience.

Relander January 23rd, 2007 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffro
McCain-Flip-flopper

And don't get me started on the uber-conservative candidates...
I'm not so well aware of individuals in US politics, but doesn't McCain just have individualistic stances on different issues rather than he's a flip-flopper?

How about Rudy Giuliani? He seems to be somewhat okay.

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Originally Posted by Deanoz
I long for the day that being black, or being a woman, or in a religion, will not be a factor and will not be an issue in who becomes elected into a certain position. Tell me how they are relevant to doing the job.
They aren't relevant for us but this isn't about what we think but what many Americans think: that is (I presume) they aren't ready for woman or black president this time.

Deanoz January 23rd, 2007 03:21 AM
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They aren't relevant for us but this isn't about what we think but what many Americans think: that is (I presume) they aren't ready for woman or black president this time.
Yeah, some American's aren't. That's why I'm wishing those sort of things won't always win or lose peoples votes. On top of that, I think this sort of brings us down(the united states), in the eyes of the international community, as far as discrimination is concerned. Regardless of other countries and their policies about it, we are contradicting ourselves. But yeah, eventually time will pass and it won't be a big deal.

Things we must all ask ourselves is what makes a candidate worthy of your vote.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. January 23rd, 2007 04:43 AM
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Rudy Giuliani is a somewhat better choice, his views on the war and national security are strong, but i dont agree with most of his social issues (gay marriage, abortion, etc..)

Reno January 23rd, 2007 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffro (Post 3498376)
That was a response to Scratchy's imaginary argument:

Here is word for word what he said:

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"John Edwards looked like such a stuck up lawyer. I don't know how better to describe it. Everything about the man told me overachieving cunt. I couldn't stand his smile. Every time he laughs he makes me want to fist his face."
If you think that is a valid "argument", I don't know what to say...


Call my logic flawed, but I still think he is an incompetent douchebag. The mere reason I stated it, however, was to respond to Scratchy's ridiculous and irrelevent bashing of John Edwards.


Hopefully that is sarcasm. Here are our "wonderful" choices:

Hilary-Authoritarian democrat who is a carpetbagger and blames violence on video games. That cold, emotionless smile creeps me out every time.

Obama -Personally, my candidate of choice, however will never make it (He's black, has a muslim background, etc...)

McCain-Flip-flopper

And don't get me started on the uber-conservative candidates...
It was my personal opinion. It wasn't intended to be part of the argument. Just an opinion pretaining to the argument. It was not a attempt to change yours. You sure did get defensive. I must've hit a nerve. ;)

Elektrofaust January 23rd, 2007 07:54 AM
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Obama is no way in hell winning. A black president in the USA or in Europe will never work. And on top of that muslim...:lol:
Hilary is retarded...woman president? Women don't make decisions, they stay quiet and follow the man. Women can't make hardcore decisions.

Jeffro January 23rd, 2007 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Relander (Post 3498520)
I'm not so well aware of individuals in US politics, but doesn't McCain just have individualistic stances on different issues rather than he's a flip-flopper?
Sorry, I was vague. I believe he is a flip-flopper, because one minute he says something that goes AGAINST christian values (he refuses to ban civil unions). The next minute, he tries hard to kiss their arse. I'm just skeptical...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...C-RSSFeeds0312


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How about Rudy Giuliani? He seems to be somewhat okay.
I'll have to check his stance on issues before I say anything about him. From what I have seen, he isn't a religious nutter...

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It was my personal opinion. It wasn't intended to be part of the argument. Just an opinion pretaining to the argument. It was not a attempt to change yours. You sure did get defensive. I must've hit a nerve.
It didn't strike a nerve, considering this is just a gamingforum. :p

Reno January 23rd, 2007 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Elektrofaust (Post 3498784)
Obama is no way in hell winning. A black president in the USA or in Europe will never work. And on top of that muslim...:lol:
Hilary is retarded...woman president? Women don't make decisions, they stay quiet and follow the man. Women can't make hardcore decisions.
:fistpunch:

I don't understand your reason for the man not being president. How does being half part african or musilim effect his decision making? Just because it's never been done before doesn't mean it wouldn't work.

50 years ago it was controversial that a catholic was running for president. They still elected him to office. Maybe you know him, his name was John F. Kennedy.

As for woman being followers and not making the tough decisions, I dare you to say that to the women serving in the miltary. In fact I dare you to try and "feel them up." You'd end up with a broken arm and a very feminine fist in the face.

Relander January 23rd, 2007 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Elektrofaust
And on top of that muslim...:lol:
Though I think Obama is more like "muslim-only-by-name" than actual believer.

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Hilary is retarded...woman president? Women don't make decisions, they stay quiet and follow the man. Women can't make hardcore decisions.
Sure you have something to back up your rather arrogant and unfound claim? Didn't/haven't Margaret Thatcher, Jean DŽArc, Nancy Pelosi, Condoleezza Rice or Catherine the Great made "hardcore decisions"?


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