Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

Well first off I will say is if Obama gets into office just imagine what could happen, if we were to have trouble's with Iran, Siria or any other Middle Eastern country & that the majority of its populace is muslim? Would Obama a Muslim attack it.

What if the nation became attacked by a Middle East country who thinks that the hollocaust never exisited, A Middle east country whom is radically muslim & the leader is a genocidal maniac.

Do you think it would work?

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

Perhaps we should adopt a new foreign policy. Stop attack other countires for no reason is one that comes to mind.

It'd be cool if the US had a non interference policy

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

What do you base your question on? Muslim nations have absolutly NO qualms about razing their brother nations to the ground, so why should a thoroughly American individual such as Obama have an issue with kicking off in ANY countries ass should they strike the US? The question is ludicrous. Did the US have a problem attacking Christian Mexico and Spain and Germany when we needed to? With our Christian leaders even? to suggest otherwise for a guy who is basically muslim in name only is beyond asinine.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

Whereas the current MALE president is making great decisions at the moment with such areas as handling of Iraq.

Ever heard of a person in the US government called Condoleezza Rice? Women CAN work in governments, and very effectively too. The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, is also female.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

Has a Christian yet declared war on Isreal, I think not. ;)
This is a very sacred area for muslims I think, the holy lands.

Although I don't see myself voting for either Hillary & Obama, because of my hatred of the total hypocrisy, naivete and idiocy of the typical liberal mindset on foreign policy, defence, immigration and the Middle East. The typical liberal thinks the world is a sugar coated fantasy land where nothing happens.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

because Christians and Jews are somehow more similiar to each other than Christians and Muslims, or Jews and Muslims? I fail to see the point in the above argument. The area is sacred for a number of religions, the only reason it still exist as it seems.

Not arguing with your other points though i'll say the average conservative outlook prior to the war seemed similar. Something about occupiers being met with flowers and praise and what not. When i was there we were met by bullet bouquets and the only praise we heard was 'Allahu Akbar' prior to more of the previous.

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IF you knew any thing about history you would christians were the first to persecute jews all over europe, massacre them, and what not. They were the first to invade the holy land on th eintent to have it for themselves. The crusaders massacred all muslims and jews in both Jerusalem and Spain.

And palastine isnt about religion as much as it is geopolitical issues and land. I will agree that the second intifada(I THINK it was the second) was raised because of Ariel Sharon's arrogance and caliming the Dome of The Rock for Israel.

Obama isnt a muslim :|. Second of all we already ARE and HAVE been haivng troubles with Syria, and recently Iran. No offense thats kinda stupid how your making a country sound like its a sentient being. A country cant think for itself and declare the holocaust dosent exist. Politicians and civilians can. And please tell me which middle eastern country would attack us? And what does the holocaust have to do with it..Hell im going to PLAY THE DEVIL's ADVOCATE. Lets say I DON'T beleive in the holocaust, whats it to you?(well most people that know me on the forums know I beleive it exists since ive states it many times before)

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

Why the hell is everyone bashing me? Sorry for speaking my mind and putting my own opinion out there. Next time I'll just agree with everyone like they do in communism.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

hey guy, nobodies bashing ya, least not to my knowledge. Just expressing disagreement with your theory is all. The Pub requires thick skin as well as conviction. You ARE however providing interesting points of debate however. For that, i am appreciative.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

I was refering to Iran, whom has WMD'S. The leader of the country is a maniac, he's all fucked up in the head who ignorantly believe's that holocaust never exisited FYI.

Well first off, how was I supposed to know that. You know because of his name which is very deceiving "Obama" sounds like "Osama", its like saying a person named Roethenberg & you think he's jewish but he's a catholic. Also in my History Class the teacher called him a muslim so I thought.

The reason why I didn't know it is because I haven't looked up his info yet, jesus you don't have to flame me; You could've said it nicely. D:

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Iran hasnt said the holocaust didnt happen, That was Mahmoud Ahmedinijad, a single man from a country. And even he explained what he meant by what he said. He was also making a point to why it is never allowed to research into the holocaust, and the hypocrasy of Holocaust over God. One more thing..A LOT of people have WMDs we dont seem to be going after them. Iran has what..Chemical weapons? Biological?(I myself am unsure, im guessing at most chemical) Those are nothing everyone has those.

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Wow, Obama sounds like Osama? :lol:

And let that be a lesson to you:
Your crediblity[in the pub] always goes down if you dont look up your info and get the facts straight.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

Randolf sounds like Adolph but you dont see anybody claiming that particular AFB is an homage to Hitler do you?



On a second, me thinks your trolling.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

Randolf is usually a last name of person i.e: Willie Randolf. I have'nt really seen a Adolf as a last name.

I can assure you, people will be making Obama-Osama jokes for the next 4 years or so. I don't go to the pub ofter maybe here & there. But not very often (I just come here for Battlefield 1942 & Half-Life 2), I go to hl2.net forums for the politics. I am a sort of new comer here at the pubs.


I am quite curious as to how I was trolling the boards? How was a being an "ass"? Enlighten me?

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That won't be necessary.

The people with orange names determine who is trolling and who isn't. If someone has a problem use PMs or the report-post function and now get back on topic please :)

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

I will do just that. :D

Well getting back on topic, my choice of candidate would be John McCain. I am not too found of Guiliani because of his liberal stance on abortion, immigration, etc, but then again he supports the Iraq war.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

You tried. It really didn't work.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

Topic: Giuliani

To put it simply, I honestly don't think he has enough experience. He was New York City's mayor, which is almost like being governor of a state, but he still doesn't have any senate experience, and only served for 6 years or so.

I'll be honest here, I'm a democrat (well, more democrat than republican), but Giuliani would be a good candidate if he had more experience. He kind of seems to have a claim to fame because of the September 11th attacks, but before his publicity then, I don't think he did anything drastic to demand the nation's attention.

Re: Hillary is running for the US presidency
 

I think that in general the American voter gives too much credit for experience, that includes also so called "cabinet politics" aka acting in the scenes, "for me, for you, for me" and and looking for what is popular rather than what a person thinks him/herself. The average age of US senators is something like 60 years (?) and the situation in the House of Representatives isn't much better. I seriously doubt that the voice of the young people is heard in the Capitol.

What has happened to new visions, ideology and spirit of being fresh & dynamic?