Ban The Death Penalty

[Deanoz]

It costs more money(with the appeals process, etc.) to kill them than to keep them in prison for life.

Many people on death row are found innocent and released.

It also wouldn't surprise me that more murderers than we think, may suffer from some kind of psychological disorder or have had a short burst of insanity.

There are too many things wrong with it.

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R.]

Originally Posted by Deanoz

It costs more money(with the appeals process, etc.) to kill them than to keep them in prison for life.

Many people on death row are found innocent and released.

It also wouldn't surprise me that more murderers than we think, may suffer from some kind of psychological disorder or have had a short burst of insanity.

There are too many things wrong with it.

Do you have numbers to prove it? IIRC its over 24,000 a year to keep somone on death row

Define "many", the amount of people who have been found innocent is rather small

What is it with people always blaming some sort of disorder and insanity??

The main thing that is wrong with the death penalty is that we dont do it often enough

[Deanoz]

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Do you have numbers to prove it? IIRC its over 24,000 a year to keep somone on death row

I'm not only talking about providing the essential things such as shelter, food and drinks, and whatever other benefits that they have. I am also taking into consideration ongoing legal representation and appeals that don't cost the convicted person, but other people.
There are plenty of resources to gather information, and 24,000 is at the very low end for only providing essentials for living and taking absolutely nothing else into consideration.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/arti...scid=7&did=918 just to give you one

Define "many", the amount of people who have been found innocent is rather small

For a person who thinks one is more than enough, like I do, according to my research there is roughly 4 person every year found innocent.(Averaged from a few different sources where the numbers were only 2-3 off from each other Two of them were the same and they were in the middle, so I went with that.

What is it with people always blaming some sort of disorder and insanity??

No one that I am aware of stated that those were the cause all of the time. Just saying that it is another factor to be aware of as these are different than actually making a choice and being aware of the consequences.

The main thing that is wrong with the death penalty is that we dont do it often enough

The death penalty cannot be reversed. What if the person killed with the death penalty was found innocent with new investigations, evidence, and technology to make that all possible? How is that not kiling people often enough wrong?

[Angel_Mommy]

i support the death penalty for people who kill someone else, not in self defence but on perpus (sp?) because if someone goes out, and willingly kills someone just because they 'feel like it' they should have the same thing done to them.... some thing goes for multiple offenders of high offences..imho

[GeeProductions]

Originally Posted by Delta Force

If an innocent guy gets executed you can't bring him back to life, but if he is sent to jail you can let him out and compensate him.

To be honest, this is solely why I want it banned. It's already banned where I live (Australia,) but should be done worldwide. There was recently a guy who spent roughly 17 years in jail (In Australia), then, evidence came up that proved him innocent. If Australia still had the death penalty, he would've been dead.

[Mr. Matt]

Murder is murder, but the state has the advantage of changing the law on a whim to make itself appear innocent. That said, no government should be allowed to have the power to arbitrarily murder one of their citizens, no matter what they've done. The moral implications of it are irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned, when faced with the simple question of trust.

[y0umebednow]

i agree that we have no right to take someones life but i still think it shouldnt be banned because really and truly, its the most fairest punishment.

[Joe Bonham]

The anti-capital punishment argument relies on the assumption that we're dealing with human beings. We're not. These are animals, and they should be dealt with as animals.

If there's a mad dog killing children in the street, you don't put it in a cage - you shoot it.

[Mr. Matt]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice

The anti-capital punishment argument relies on the assumption that we're dealing with human beings. We're not. These are animals, and they should be dealt with as animals.

If there's a mad dog killing children in the street, you don't put it in a cage - you shoot it.

Sorry, but until you can identify the exact part of their DNA which has made them mysteriously and suddenly transform into a completely different species, they're homo-sapiens. And then you have to clearly define what constitutes an 'animal', because a lot of people would argue that all homo-sapiens are a type of animal. And if animals apparently have no value attached to their lives, I wonder if I could set to work on that list I've got stewing...

[Meadow]

There is no evidence whatsoever for the death penalty working as an effective deterrent. This, along with the obvious hypocrisy of taking a life because someone else took one, and the flaws in the judicial system, means a modern civilised nation cannot possibly defend any use of the death penalty.