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Reno December 12th, 2006 03:08 PM

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Its hard to imagine a million terrorists could get together in one place without any bombs. :uhm:

Aeroflot December 12th, 2006 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob L. Scrachy (Post 3422904)
Its hard to imagine a million terrorists could get together in one place without any bombs. :uhm:

Dude. Shut your mouth.

Pethegreat December 12th, 2006 03:11 PM

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and if some drunk is acting violent, they should be hit
For what reason though? I can see if a drunk is fighting with somone, and nothing has got him to stop. You don't hit a person just because he/she is drunk. The best thing to do would be to offer than a ride home, or if they are looking for a fight, lock up for the night to let them dry out. My mom has many stories of getting free rides from the cops in the 1980's:p

AlDaja December 12th, 2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeroflotte (Post 3422882)
Kids learn from the early age? ;)


Yes they do and I considered myself pretty straight and narrow growing up, but every child or young adult makes mistakes and bad decisions - it is our ability to learn from our mistakes that make us well rounded adults. Anyone who claims to never have done anything wrong small or large is full of shit.

Look at that! December 12th, 2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pethegreat (Post 3422911)
For what reason though? I can see if a drunk is fighting with somone, and nothing has got him to stop. You don't hit a person just because he/she is drunk. The best thing to do would be to offer than a ride home, or if they are looking for a fight, lock up for the night to let them dry out. My mom has many stories of getting free rides from the cops in the 1980's:p

a drunk has said rude things to me, so i hit him, and he left in pain, so he wont cause any more trouble, people should respect law

it is own falut for being a drunk

Aeroflot December 12th, 2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlDaja (Post 3422918)
Yes they do and I considered myself pretty straight and narrow growing up, but every child or young adult makes mistakes and bad decisions - it is our ability to learn from our mistakes that make us well rounded adults. Anyone who claims to never have done anything wrong small or large is full of shit.

I got the shit beat out of me growing up. Sometimes people don't learn right and wrong, so they need some extra... 'help.' Kids especially need it.

AlDaja December 12th, 2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeroflotte (Post 3422923)
I got the shit beat out of me growing up. Sometimes people don't learn right and wrong, so they need some extra... 'help.' Kids especially need it.

Ok, your the other side of the equation - and please don't take this the wrong way but I figured as much, cause I've seen it happen to people in my family and their views mirror yours in someways. So, using yourself as an example - think about what we've discussed...

Pethegreat December 12th, 2006 03:18 PM

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a drunk has said rude things to me, so i hit him, and he left in pain, so he wont cause any more trouble, people should respect law

it is own falut for being a drunk
"stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"

Some of the stuff that come out the mouths of drunks is comedic gold.

Look at that! December 12th, 2006 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pethegreat (Post 3422929)
"stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"

Some of the stuff that come out the mouths of drunks is comedic gold.

but he came towards me trying to drunk like kiss me, so i hit him

it was his own fault for being a rude citizen

Jeffro December 12th, 2006 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3422938)
but he came towards me trying to drunk like kiss me, so i hit him

It's called dodging out of the way and calling him an asshole. No need to smack the poor bastard...

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it was his own fault for being a rude citizen
I let one rip with you behind me on the street. Is that being a rude citizen and does it warrent a kick in the nutters?

Pethegreat December 12th, 2006 03:28 PM

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but he came towards me trying to drunk like kiss me, so i hit him

it was his own fault for being a rude citizen
There were other things you could have done. Hitting a drunk is the equivlant of playing russian roulette. If you get one mad, you may not be able to defend youself unless you have a blade or firearm.

Pethegreat December 12th, 2006 03:35 PM

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It must be an American thing. He is saying that he would fart while you were walking behind him. Nutters=testicles.

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You started the fight though. What are you going to say to the family? "I hit this guy, he fought me, and I killed him"

czech speacial forces December 12th, 2006 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3422958)
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Cops in the US only use their guns if they think the person might kill someone or severly hurt. they arnt gonna shoot some very very drunk guy.

now i know why people say someone is communist when im in czech. its when they act like nobody can ever do anything wrong. such as a lady scorning us for messing around on a bridge. my friend said "damn communist".

Pethegreat December 12th, 2006 03:43 PM

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Dead men don't pay fines or restution for property dammage. Contain the riot/mob and arrest them. Then you fine them. You can hurt people alot more via the pocket book than with a bullet.

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You antagionized him. If you would have said nothing and avoided him, he would still be alive.

Look at that! December 12th, 2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pethegreat (Post 3422998)
Dead men don't pay fines or restution for property dammage. Contain the riot/mob and arrest them. Then you fine them. You can hurt people alot more via the pocket book than with a bullet.


You antagionized him. If you would have said nothing and avoided him, he would still be alive.


force is what violent criminals only understand


and i did not kill him, i just hit him, i am just saying what i would do if situation happened

Nostradamouse December 12th, 2006 03:49 PM

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Nah, seriously, what she did is nothing worst than a lady using her Cayenne pepper spray on a drunk guy that was a little too promiscuous for her own taste. (and yea, those happen)

Look at that! December 12th, 2006 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamouse (Post 3423011)
Nah, seriously, what she did is nothing worst than a lady using her Cayenne pepper spray on a drunk guy that was a little too promiscuous for her own taste. (and yea, those happen)

yes, just hit his hand with baton when he pput it on railing to keep balance, after that, he fled, he actually had tears in eyes, serves him right :)

Reno December 12th, 2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeroflotte (Post 3422910)
Dude. Shut your mouth.

I was being sarcastic. She said all those people in tiananmen square were rioting terrorists. Terrorists wouldn't protests, they would terrorize.

So Stuff yourself. I don't tell you to keep your mouth shut, so give me the same courtesy.

czech speacial forces December 12th, 2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob L. Scrachy (Post 3423067)
I was being sarcastic. She said all those people in tiananmen square were rioting terrorists. Terrorists wouldn't protests, they would terrorize.

So Stuff yourself. I don't tell you to keep your mouth shut, so give me the same courtesy.

they wanted democracy, then they got shot and ran over. we may have at most arrested communists during cold war era, but i doubt more.

Nostradamouse December 12th, 2006 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by czech speacial forces (Post 3423092)
they wanted democracy, then they got shot and ran over. we may have at most arrested communists during cold war era, but i doubt more.

Oh, the US did far worst than that in quite a couple of occasions, but they did not have the monopoly on it. Everyone did it and it was normal in those times to do things like that.


Yes I am talking about Chile, Honduras, Grenada and a couple others. You didnt do that kind of stuff against your own people though.

czech speacial forces December 12th, 2006 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamouse (Post 3423103)
Oh, the US did far worst than that in quite a couple of occasions, but they did not have the monopoly on it. Everyone did it and it was normal in those times to do things like that.


Yes I am talking about Chile, Honduras, Grenada and a couple others. You didnt do that kind of stuff against your own people though.

oh coarse the US didnt want communism to spread. because it would give more power to the USSR. our arch enemy. but i meant our own people. we never shot at communists, hippies when they protested like the chinese. america didnt want communist to spread, just as the USSR stoped democracy or liberalism in states such as czechoslovakia.

AlDaja December 12th, 2006 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamouse (Post 3423103)
Oh, the US did far worst than that in quite a couple of occasions, but they did not have the monopoly on it. Everyone did it and it was normal in those times to do things like that.


Yes I am talking about Chile, Honduras, Grenada and a couple others. You didnt do that kind of stuff against your own people though.

K, this is what gets people in the forum upset not disputing what you are saying, becuase it is mostly true, but I'm not going to give you the answers:cool: ...need to give factual examples of what, how and when in American history with the above or it looses the context of when these events happened and your argument.

Afterburner December 12th, 2006 04:40 PM

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The U.S. often went to war to stop the spread of Communism, but as far as I know we never violently silenced protesters here, and for that matter we never went to war to remove Communism from some place where it was already the government. We never really "spread" democracy before, atleast not to any significant degree, rather we protected it where it was already used. Communism was the aggressor during the cold war, and capitalism was on the defense. Says a lot about the two policies.

Edit: I don't mean to say that the U.S. was never aggressive, or never did anything wrong. I'm just saying that in the general overview of the Cold War the USSR and here allies were the real aggressors.

Nostradamouse December 12th, 2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AlDaja (Post 3423129)
K, this is what gets people in the forum upset not disputing what you are saying, becuase it is mostly true, but I'm not going to give you the answers:cool: ...need to give factual examples of what, how and when in American history with the above or it looses the context of when these events happened and your argument.

Yep I was talking about the cold war and I stated specifically that about every countries were doing it and I just took the US as an example. BS happened everywhere during the Cold War.

czech speacial forces December 12th, 2006 05:04 PM

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soviet communism stopped all changes, it was their way or no way. they didnt allow Dubcek's "socialism with a face". thus causing the prague spring.


Aeroflot December 12th, 2006 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob L. Scrachy (Post 3423067)
I was being sarcastic. She said all those people in tiananmen square were rioting terrorists. Terrorists wouldn't protests, they would terrorize.

So Stuff yourself. I don't tell you to keep your mouth shut, so give me the same courtesy.

Quote next time, then, because Tian An Men Square wasn't being talked about on that page.

Reno December 12th, 2006 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeroflotte (Post 3423175)
Quote next time, then, because Tian An Men Square wasn't being talked about on that page.

Look at evil dude's post about three above the one in question.

Look at that! December 13th, 2006 01:12 PM

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you think this funny? :mad:

Captain Fist December 13th, 2006 01:13 PM

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Fuck, a second Look at that!. God, Satan, Buddha, Brahman, Richard Nixon, and Ronald Reagan help us.

How exactly am I brainwashed? I want you to tell me specifically, don't use some half assed excuse like "Be simply denying the fact you are brainwashed makes you brainwashed," that shit just makes you look stupid. I invite you to tell me why and how I am brainwahed, and I'll shoot your shitty claim down from the Red Sky choked with lies faster than you can say "Brainwashed!"

Primarch Vulkan December 13th, 2006 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3424326)
you think this funny? :mad:


think what as funny? The post by Don't look at that? if so I don't gather whats so funny?

Look at that! December 13th, 2006 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Exar_Kun (Post 3424461)
think what as funny? The post by Don't look at that? if so I don't gather whats so funny?

i am not stupid, this dont look at thats only goal is to make fun of me

Primarch Vulkan December 13th, 2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3424499)
i am not stupid, this dont look at thats only goal is to make fun of me


mabey it's you...under another name...

Fortune December 13th, 2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3424499)
i am not stupid, this dont look at thats only goal is to make fun of me

Goal yours is, to treat us like stupid Capitalists.

When China, Capitalist is in fact.

Arguments of lies you have.

Selective reading a tool of yours is.

Say Selective Reading we do too, but in the amount you do we do not.

Ignore posts reply to you can not.

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Originally Posted by Don't Look at That
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God quote this is!

Maybe the guy she smacked, it is.

Primarch Vulkan December 13th, 2006 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jedihunter (Post 3424515)
Goal yours is, to treat us like stupid Capitalists.

When China, Capitalist is in fact.

Arguments of lies you have.

Selective reading a tool of yours is.

Say Selective Reading we do too, but in the amount you do we do not.

Ignore posts reply to you can not.



God quote this is!

Maybe the guy she smacked, it is.


lol Yes master yoda...Anyway I have to agree...I don't do selective reading...I read then put my input in.

Look at that! December 13th, 2006 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Exar_Kun (Post 3424511)
mabey it's you...under another name...

it is not me, it is silly, i can clearly see that it is trying to humor me

Captain Fist December 13th, 2006 02:47 PM

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That's funny. "Swollen in head, weak in legs, sharp in tongue but empty in belly."

Look at that! December 13th, 2006 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ihaterednecks (Post 3424688)
That's funny. "Swollen in head, weak in legs, sharp in tongue but empty in belly."

it is not funny, it is not fair that i am made fun of in this way

Fortune December 13th, 2006 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3424705)
it is not funny, it is not fair that i am made fun of in this way

Fair it is, when you call other respected forum members parents rats cowards.

Crazy Wolf December 13th, 2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeroflotte (Post 3422851)
Dude, it is either you are too strict, or you are too gentle on the criminals. To the normal parents who can let their young children run around the streets of the city without worry, or to the women who can walk safely in the night, it is probably best for it to be this way. Criminals should be treated bad anyway.

Criminals should be treated bad? What about those that are merely "detained" for questioning? Do you believe in "innocent until proven guilty", Dobry? The Japanese police beat people to get confessions. That means that the may not actually have committed the crime, they might just want the beating to end.


Look at that!, I note similarities between jeff&eddie's posting style and yours, specifically, ignoring the arguments that effectively "pwn" yours, saying something is "wrong" and leaving it at that without explaining why it is wrong, and spouting/regurgitating ideas and thoughts that earn the scorn of most of the posters here.

Pb2Au December 13th, 2006 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3418753)
why do westerners think so highly of themselves, when the western world has thugs walking streets, too much sordid sex, single mothers, homosexuals, people who value material things over life.

why are you so proud of such degrading traits?

The Western world does not have that to any degree greater than the Eastern world, but it's just more publicized. If you want to call the western world depraved, look at Indonesia. Go to Singapor, visit Taiwan. Those places are so publicly depraved it'll make America seem like Saudi Arabia.

Dark Saint December 14th, 2006 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3418812)
jealous of violent criminals, meaningless sex and greed?

Same stuff you have in your country.

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3418893)
i dont think i am, growing up i had a TV, a home just like all my friends families did, i did not talk to poor people and farmers, those are the people you are thinking of

Wow, your parents must be rich. Richer than those that can't have those things because what they can afford is what is grown on the sidelines and bartered for.

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3418903)
both he and my mother used to be active in politics, my father was very high postion in Army and my mother high status in a female prison.

what is wrong with these jobs and what is wrong with ideals?

Wow Government jobs. So they had an " in " where they didn't have to worry about the laws governing how many children they have. Free pass anyone ?

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3418913)
well some people have money, so they earn right for more children as they can look after better

As stated, your folks are rich , they are what you hate about Western Society ... Doh!
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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3418921)
i am sorry, but most peopel here are happy and proud to be loyal workers and people who here who say it is bad and are ungreatful deserve to be beaten with baton in my opinion

You do not speak for the populace of your entire country. If they were as " happy " as you think, they wouldn't have ( or are not currently" jumping ship to America to make a better life for themselves or their families.

You have contadicted your entire arguement on the first page of posts. I didn't even bother to read the rest. You are everything you hate of Western civilization ... Enjoy hating yourself and beating yourself with a baton...

Focking Einstein December 14th, 2006 06:17 AM

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“It is not the failure of others to appreciate your abilities that should trouble you, but rather your failure to appreciate theirs.”

~ Confucius

Dark Saint December 14th, 2006 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Focking Einstein (Post 3425803)
“It is not the failure of others to appreciate your abilities that should trouble you, but rather your failure to appreciate theirs.”

~ Confucius


lol....Very nice...:lol:

Aeroflot December 15th, 2006 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Wolf (Post 3425338)
Criminals should be treated bad? What about those that are merely "detained" for questioning? Do you believe in "innocent until proven guilty", Dobry? The Japanese police beat people to get confessions. That means that the may not actually have committed the crime, they might just want the beating to end.

No, I believe in guilty until proven innocent.

What are you going to say to that, huh?

Crazy Wolf December 15th, 2006 08:57 PM

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I say you being framed for a crime would be delightful for an onlooker such as I.

Zab December 16th, 2006 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Aeroflotte (Post 3428708)
No, I believe in guilty until proven innocent.

What are you going to say to that, huh?

That's idiotic.

What? I hope you weren't expecting some sort of detailed counter argument to that...

Rich19 December 16th, 2006 01:39 AM

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Crazy Wolf's post would suffice as a detailed counter argument actually.

Karst December 16th, 2006 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Aeroflotte (Post 3428708)
No, I believe in guilty until proven innocent.

What are you going to say to that, huh?

Ah, i see. Like the prosecution of Witches in the middle ages. Your neighbor hates you and says you're a witch? Guilty!


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