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this thread seems like bashing anothers country...sigh....how sad

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You know, the irony is that Communism is essentially a "Western" thought. Marx and Engels, Lenin, Stalin, (Basically Mao's greatest influences) were all European. So the big generalization isn't such a bright argument.

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Oh yeah, I totally hate you because your Chinese, even though I'm Chinese (Partially), My mother's Half Chinese, and my Grandfather is a Chinese War Veteren, and I am very proud of my heritage.

On a side note, Look at that! is wrong, and everyone else is right. End of story.

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Do unto others as you would have them do to-

Oh yeah, Communism hates Christianity, my bad! :rolleyes:

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Beyound being able to cast a ballot every few years there isn't a whole lot of democracy in socialism. A society that forbids it's citizens to live their own lives the way they see fit cannot be democratic IMO.

Market democracy. :)

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Jeez, how old are you? 5 years old?
"No, he was rude first!"
Seriously, you are crashing your head on barriers you choose not to see. For your own good, stop it. Avoid talking about this and get over it.

P.S. since after every comment you say the one who posted hates you: no, I don' t hate you.

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most of messages sound like you hate me

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Okey listen up, you are posting stupid answers to well written posts.

These are the RULES for the Pub. Check rule number 3, please:
Read it yet?
Good!
Now, I suggest you start to write real answers instead of just answering with one sentence.
You are considered arrogant with your low-effort answers and if this goes on, we/I will take measures to see that it stops.
So please refrain from that in the future.

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Woah there, you have us all wrong. Believe me when I tell you that most people here(the silent majority) do not approve of fornication, adultery, homosexuality, and other abhorrently sinful activities that is here. We are trying to rid ourselves of these problems, but it will take time. Every society has it's bad traits and evils. I hope you understand where im coming from? :)

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Actually, most people are against this guy too ^. Rest assured his conspiracy theories do not in any way represent anyone else from the west. :)

P.S. What is wrong with homosexuals?

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[sarcasm]Someone said it was bad, so of course it has to be bad huh? Right? I mean, we have to think like others tell us to. Questionning authority is always very bad, huh? [/sarcasm]

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Actually, God is the ultimate authority. And yes questioning his authority is bad.

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Too bad, I haven't heard about him stating textually that homosexuality was wrong. Have you?

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Read the bible, perhaps you'll get the message.

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yes i do, decent morals like those should be rewarded

if all people who thought like this around world, it would be better place

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All that homosexuality stuff is an interpretation we have of texts that are over 2000 years old for which the real meaning has more than probably been lost in translation. IE: Dead sea scrolls.

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Oh dear your Chinese masters of paradise not likey people playing games

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6173293.stm

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This is common sense. Do you need someone to tell you robbery is wrong, or murder is wrong to believe it's wrong? Why is homosexuality any different? It's wrong.

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This is what happens in an atheistic society.

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Probably in your views of things, while robbery is in the 10th commandments, I don't remember seeing homosexuality there, pal!

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but it is wrong, men falling in love with men should be outcasted, what they feel is wrong, society should shun them and make them outcast if they dont accpet wrong doing in my opinion

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Are you advocating a society in which everyone is the same, thinks the same, acts the same and look the same?

Well that would be boring huh?

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Would you care to explain to me just why it is wrong, without using the words 'god', 'un-natural' or 'disease'?

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Open the floodgates! Lets allow pedophilia, necrophilia, and beastiality to boot! Any fetish that anyone wants to induldge in, regardless of the parties involved?

We have rules for a reason. Perversion should not be condoned by our society.

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This same argument can be applied to the other perversions I have just mentioned(pedophilia, necrophilia, beastiality). How much of this should our society condone before setting up a limit? But if you want a real reason, three words:

Sanctity of Marriage

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Unfortunatly, "sanctity" and "real reason" do not go together because religion can provide only personal reasons. Just like you and reason, for that matter.

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God we just hit a huge strawman there. I rather have people think and act by themselves than having tight rules. I've seen enough people that lived in the tightest places and broke completly loose while they got out of it.

And bah, Marriage is overated.

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Im sorry, I musnt have made myself clear enough.

I want an explanation of what is wrong with it without use of the words I set. You've just waffled around the question.

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well you already think people in my society all look the same :)

no, i mean uniting people through decency, preferance in music, clothes and healthy love interests are individuals

however soceity should not condone homosexuals and criminals

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Step right up:don: ,, and welcome to China, workers paradise. We even do the thinking for you!:assimilate:

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I wish this topic came up a couple seeks ago. I read several books on this very subject and I am convinced that Western society is much too individualistic. Actually, one of the books I read will probably be interesting to you all. It is called Confucius Lives Next Door. It is a good book which talks about how Confucius' teachings have led to a more successful society in the East. Of course, 'more successful' is really an opinion... but, facts do not lie: crime, divorce, and unemployment rates in East Asia are much, much lower than in the West. I heard that car alarms and home security systems in Japan are unheard of, and that people, without worry, can leave their bikes at the rack without locking them up for the night.

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No I don't think that the sino-canadian girl I'm talking to on MSN right now looks like her best friend who is Chinese, I ain't into stereotypes, sorry.

Yet again, you remove people's right to choose what they want to be. If they want to be gay, let them be. I basically grew on the : Live and let others live principle and it is one of my most important values.

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Yet you ignore me when I ask why.

Is this because you cant actually think of a reason outside of saying its wrong/ immoral?

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its is no diffrent to pedophiles, it is disgusting, i am sorry, but i do not agree with such things

and in my country it is not illegel to be homosexual, but i wish it was

a once very good friend of mine killed himself because nobody accepted when he told everyone he was homosexual here, while i didnt want to see him die even though i refused to talk to him from then on

but the reason nobody accepted him is because it is wrong

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Yes, that's because they'll kill you if you do or beat the crap out of you in the name of the law (reminds me of Judge Dread)...and send boat loads of people (many who are willing to get onboard) to other parts of the world Canada and US primarily. Only the worker bees and drones are allowed to remain - Resistance is Futile.

Oh, and why does Japan get such a high score - might want to take a closer look:
How Japan Gets a Low Crime Rate

Today's Los Angeles Times has an article that illuminates the difficulty of citing Japan's low crime rate as evidence that gun-control is a factor.
In a Column One story titled "Victims of a Safe Society," the Los Angeles Times details how the relatively low rate of private criminality in Japan is achieved by massive police criminality: beating suspects so severely that they are permanently crippled in order to obtain confessions, a massively high rate of false executions and imprisonment, and virtually no penalties for police who commit these crimes.
"Many foreign people think Japan is a highly developed, advanced, democratic country, and it is," says Hideyuki Kayanuma, an attorney for an American entertainer who was permanently crippled by Japanese police who suspected him of drug possession. "But especially in the field of criminal justice, it's a Third World country. There are no human rights."
Civil-rights attorney Kensuke Onuki says, "It's almost like 'Midnight Express.'"
In addition to beating of suspects, sleep deprivation to achieve confessions, and common torture of arrestees, the article describes a Japanese criminal justice system with virtually no bail, strip searches for traffic violations, and a conviction rate of 98% -- about that of Stalinist USSR. In contrast, of 12,615 complaints of torture and abuse filed against police over the last 40 years, only 15 cases were tried, and only half of that 15 resulted in punishment for police officers.
Citing "a typical example," of Japanese justice, the article tells of a day laborer released after 16 years in prison. The laborer was coerced into a false confession during six months of detention in three different police stations outside Tokyo. During that time, the laborer says, "officers beat him on the head with fists, trampled his thighs, and ordered him to 'apologize' to a photo of the dead woman as they burned incense for her spirit in the interrogation room. They interrogated him for a total of 172 days as much as 13 hours a day."
Other methods of interrogation, according to the Times article, involve telling suspects that their families will suffer if they don't confess or that an interrogation won't end without a confession. The article cites human rights attorneys who have estimated forced confessions to be as high as 50%. Suspects may be held in custody for up to 23 days with no charges, bail, right to an attorney, or court supervision.
Nor is there much objection to this brutality by the Japanese public. The Japanese Civil Liberties Union has only 600 members, as compared to 280,000 ACLU members. Instead, says the Times article, "most Japanese place a high degree of confidence and trust in police and assume that suspects under arrest probably committed the crime."
Those who wish to cite Japan's low murder rate as proof that gun control works, had better think again. And if after reconsidering the issue they still advocate the Japanese approach, those Americans who value the concepts of fairness and justice would do well to understand what the goal of those who advocate gun control actually is: the importation of fascism to America.

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So its wrong because you find it disgusting?

So disgusting that you would not even talk to a person whom you called your friend? If that is your reasoning, then you are truely beyond help, not that you appear to want such help.

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Yep my boss is old school Japanese and he says the same. But he says that things get worse now, as foreign people arrive and live in Japan who do not assimilate into Japanese society or take on its values. So let's send every ethnic group back to its place of origin and we will all live happy ever after.

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You still haven't brought up a single reason beyond your personal beliefs and opinions. No rational, reasoned argument at all.

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He obviously has never heard of San Fransisco and the Castro District.

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Does this mean you approve of pedophilia, necrophilia, and beastiality?

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First this thread is hit with flaming and now spam? What's next, a "Hot Trannys and Grannies" thread?

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Dude, it is either you are too strict, or you are too gentle on the criminals. To the normal parents who can let their young children run around the streets of the city without worry, or to the women who can walk safely in the night, it is probably best for it to be this way. Criminals should be treated bad anyway.

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There is no silent majority. People are tired of gays and christans fighting over marriage. They want both sides to shut up.

Being a clone of the person next to you in terms of music taste, behavior, clothing, ect is boring. Be your self, and enjoy life.

Married couples are a minorty today.

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Kids learn from the early age? ;)

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thye dont shoot those kids, just hit them around, i dont see anything wrong with treating drunk trouble maker in such a way, i hit them if they cause trouble

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Next time you do something wrong i'm going to beat the shit out of you ok? see how it feels on the other end

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i dont do anything wrong

and if some drunk is acting violent, they should be hit

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So you have never done anything wrong? If you really do live in china then going on this fourm is wrong because it should be blocked better throw you in jail

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No, they shouldnt. They should be taken home, put to bed, and be left to sleep off the alcohol.