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I wish this topic came up a couple seeks ago. I read several books on this very subject and I am convinced that Western society is much too individualistic. Actually, one of the books I read will probably be interesting to you all. It is called Confucius Lives Next Door. It is a good book which talks about how Confucius' teachings have led to a more successful society in the East. Of course, 'more successful' is really an opinion... but, facts do not lie: crime, divorce, and unemployment rates in East Asia are much, much lower than in the West. I heard that car alarms and home security systems in Japan are unheard of, and that people, without worry, can leave their bikes at the rack without locking them up for the night.

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No I don't think that the sino-canadian girl I'm talking to on MSN right now looks like her best friend who is Chinese, I ain't into stereotypes, sorry.

Yet again, you remove people's right to choose what they want to be. If they want to be gay, let them be. I basically grew on the : Live and let others live principle and it is one of my most important values.

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Yet you ignore me when I ask why.

Is this because you cant actually think of a reason outside of saying its wrong/ immoral?

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its is no diffrent to pedophiles, it is disgusting, i am sorry, but i do not agree with such things

and in my country it is not illegel to be homosexual, but i wish it was

a once very good friend of mine killed himself because nobody accepted when he told everyone he was homosexual here, while i didnt want to see him die even though i refused to talk to him from then on

but the reason nobody accepted him is because it is wrong

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Yes, that's because they'll kill you if you do or beat the crap out of you in the name of the law (reminds me of Judge Dread)...and send boat loads of people (many who are willing to get onboard) to other parts of the world Canada and US primarily. Only the worker bees and drones are allowed to remain - Resistance is Futile.

Oh, and why does Japan get such a high score - might want to take a closer look:
How Japan Gets a Low Crime Rate

Today's Los Angeles Times has an article that illuminates the difficulty of citing Japan's low crime rate as evidence that gun-control is a factor.
In a Column One story titled "Victims of a Safe Society," the Los Angeles Times details how the relatively low rate of private criminality in Japan is achieved by massive police criminality: beating suspects so severely that they are permanently crippled in order to obtain confessions, a massively high rate of false executions and imprisonment, and virtually no penalties for police who commit these crimes.
"Many foreign people think Japan is a highly developed, advanced, democratic country, and it is," says Hideyuki Kayanuma, an attorney for an American entertainer who was permanently crippled by Japanese police who suspected him of drug possession. "But especially in the field of criminal justice, it's a Third World country. There are no human rights."
Civil-rights attorney Kensuke Onuki says, "It's almost like 'Midnight Express.'"
In addition to beating of suspects, sleep deprivation to achieve confessions, and common torture of arrestees, the article describes a Japanese criminal justice system with virtually no bail, strip searches for traffic violations, and a conviction rate of 98% -- about that of Stalinist USSR. In contrast, of 12,615 complaints of torture and abuse filed against police over the last 40 years, only 15 cases were tried, and only half of that 15 resulted in punishment for police officers.
Citing "a typical example," of Japanese justice, the article tells of a day laborer released after 16 years in prison. The laborer was coerced into a false confession during six months of detention in three different police stations outside Tokyo. During that time, the laborer says, "officers beat him on the head with fists, trampled his thighs, and ordered him to 'apologize' to a photo of the dead woman as they burned incense for her spirit in the interrogation room. They interrogated him for a total of 172 days as much as 13 hours a day."
Other methods of interrogation, according to the Times article, involve telling suspects that their families will suffer if they don't confess or that an interrogation won't end without a confession. The article cites human rights attorneys who have estimated forced confessions to be as high as 50%. Suspects may be held in custody for up to 23 days with no charges, bail, right to an attorney, or court supervision.
Nor is there much objection to this brutality by the Japanese public. The Japanese Civil Liberties Union has only 600 members, as compared to 280,000 ACLU members. Instead, says the Times article, "most Japanese place a high degree of confidence and trust in police and assume that suspects under arrest probably committed the crime."
Those who wish to cite Japan's low murder rate as proof that gun control works, had better think again. And if after reconsidering the issue they still advocate the Japanese approach, those Americans who value the concepts of fairness and justice would do well to understand what the goal of those who advocate gun control actually is: the importation of fascism to America.

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So its wrong because you find it disgusting?

So disgusting that you would not even talk to a person whom you called your friend? If that is your reasoning, then you are truely beyond help, not that you appear to want such help.

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Yep my boss is old school Japanese and he says the same. But he says that things get worse now, as foreign people arrive and live in Japan who do not assimilate into Japanese society or take on its values. So let's send every ethnic group back to its place of origin and we will all live happy ever after.

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You still haven't brought up a single reason beyond your personal beliefs and opinions. No rational, reasoned argument at all.

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He obviously has never heard of San Fransisco and the Castro District.

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Does this mean you approve of pedophilia, necrophilia, and beastiality?