Being a collector is one thing. However collectors should not have a use for ammunition.
Well I like getting new parts for my guns, slides, grips, stocks, sights... And I like to shoot at paper targets and test my skill and gun. I Enjoy the recoil the smell of the powder the different loud bangs from the guns. I collect but I shoot em' too...
"Has the whole world gone crazy?! Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules?!" - WALTER
How would you like it if I went into your house and starting listing off things you do not "need"?
Irrelevant. I don't keep illegal firearms in my house. If I was keeping something against the law in my house I wouldn't be surprised if I was arrested and jailed.
The law itself is wrong, that is what I am saying.
That's not good enough. You must use the courts! The courts are everything! You sound like a vigilante. If you have a problem, you need to go through the proper channels! You can't just run around breaking the law because you disagree with it! You must work within the system to find remedies for your problems! ... Sound a little familiar?
Irrelevant. I don't keep illegal firearms in my house. If I was keeping something against the law in my house I wouldn't be surprised if I was arrested and jailed.
Your argument was that he shouldn't have ammunition because he doesn't need it. My point is that such judgements are not for you to make, and that I could find plenty of items in your household that I would deem not to be needed.
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Originally Posted by Locomotor
That's not good enough. You must use the courts! The courts are everything! You sound like a vigilante. If you have a problem, you need to go through the proper channels! You can't just run around breaking the law because you disagree with it! You must work within the system to find remedies for your problems! ... Sound a little familiar?
This issue is not related at all. We are talking about a codified law, not an individual or organization violating the rights of another.
“It is a paradoxical truth, that… the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the tax rates.” -- John F. Kennedy
Sieg hiel and welcome to England. (Ironically since we started putting signs in German along the motorway the chances of seeing that are not as small as they might seem.)
If he was being that careless with the guns though then he's placing everyone at risk, it could have been a criminal who raided his house rather than the police and then he'd have armed a criminal, possibly several. I'm all for guns putting society in a position where they can handle guns responsibly but by the looks of it he wasn't being very responsible.
The gun law is arguably wrong, as I've supported on many occasions, but in this case...
This issue is not related at all. We are talking about a codified law, not an individual or organization violating the rights of another.
Oh, but wouldn't you say that banning guns is the government taking away your rights? So, you feel it's moral in this case to break the law (as do I in my case (and this one, maybe)). But wait! We still can't have you running around like a vigilante, breaking the law simply because you feel it's wrong. If you want the law changed, you must use the proper channels. The courts, WarHawk109, the courts!
Their means for self-defence is to die and hope the police pick up the pieces. Being as how firearms are, of course, denied to the overwhelming majority of people in the UK.
It's a dark day for freedom and democracy when people start disobeying laws which were passed by a democratically elected government because they disagree with them.
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