Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?
 

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/25/gay...age/index.html


Yikes. Now I have to move!
I'm all for their "rights and benefits " but as long as they do NOT call it marriage.

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Ugh, I couldnt really care less about people being in a same sex relationship, but It erks me when the whole marriage idea comes into play.

Their are some natural rules in the world, and that sure as hell breaches them.

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What's the big problem with calling it marriage? I'm all for it, as long as it's concerning legal marriages. Religious ceremonies shouldn't be forced though, if the minister/imam/whatever doesn't want to do it.

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I don't care if they call it marriage or what. It's upto them and if they want it then I say go heard. It's not hurting anyone and doesn't effect anything.:clueless:

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Marriage is between a man and a woman.
When someone says the word marriage you think of a woman and a man, not a man and a man or a woman and woman.
Those people can have every right they want but why the hell must they steal the name marriege and make it something nasty?

Gay couples being "married" is an oxymoron, religiously.
Call it anything you want except marriege and I will back them up, otherwise I say screw them abnormal nuts.
I'm so sick and tired of gayness being shoved into our faces on a daily basis its making me sick. and now they want to be called what normal couples are. That is pathetic.

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Sorry, but the whole thing grosses me out. Do whatever ya want in ur' bedroom, but don't bring it in public and try to make me the world like it...it ain't gonna happen. EEWW!! Seeing 2 men kissing is freakin' gross...but that's just my opinion. meant me and the world...sorry it's early

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I am grossed out by the whole thing too man but what those freaks do behind closed doors is none of my business until they want to name something as sacred as marriage as THEIRS.
Why must the homos steal this from the normal people? Come up with your own name for it.
Civil union fits, use it.

I agree it's wrong for John and Jim not to share the same legal rights but I draw the line there.
I also am darwing the line on how much this world accepts their nasty actions in the bedroom. To think that a man pounding another man in the but is ok and normal is just terrible. Our children is the ones I feel sorry for.
Whats next? teaching gayness in school?
:rolleyes:

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Yup, they already tried it in California school (forget which one) a book called my 2 mommies. The parents raised so much hell they took the book out...and this was GRADE SCHOOL!! Ya don't need to teach 7 and 8 year old kids about gay sex...or ANY sex...DAMN.:mad:

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That is just sick.
What the hell is wrong with this world today?

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I dunno bro', when they start on kids so early trying to make the accept something wierd as something "normal", they're taking their agenda too far IMO .

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it is legal in UK it does'nt bother me and yes i am strait i just don't see what the fuss is all about. it may be weird but it is up 2 the gay/lesbian ppl if they want to get married or not not ours come on its the 21st centuary not the 16th

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They can get "joined" but why must they call it something normal people have been doing forever?

So when someone says, hey did you hear Jim got married last month? Now you have to ask, to a dude or a chick? get real man.
Its a sacred word, not just religiously but to straight people with any common sense.
I don't expect 13 year olds here to fully understand why its wrong, believe me ;)

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Rules like the definition of marriage are created by society. Since religion has always been a huge part of marriage. The religious groups think they have the right to dictate the definition of marriage on behalf of all society.

The idea that marriage is between a man and a woman isn't a definition that agreed upon by all of society. If it was these states wouldn't be making it legal.

Personally I don't give a rats ass one way or the other. As long as I don't see them doing their thing I’m happy to live in ignorance. I don't feel the need to deny something to a group of people based purely on gender. They define that as discrimination.

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and this is one thing I fully back them on.

I said normal, homos are not normal people. ;)

More like common sense.

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first off i am 14 get it right secondly why do you even care about this? unless the same sex couple do some thing infront of you,you don't want to see or move next to your house why complain if you don't like the look of it don't look at it.

you are just a homophobe socity doesnt need any more thank you very much

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Take note of the thread title, mr 14 year old ;)
its about what they are calling it, not the nasty acts they do behind closed doors.
You're 14, you really wouldn't "get it"

LOL
So you are calling a man who sticks his manmeat in another man is normal?
I'll tell you what society doesn't need...more homos and freaks.
but back on topic, little one...

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meh, Im sure marriage is more of a concept than a hard written rule of conduct. If gay folks want to get married and lead stable domestic lives let them. Whats the big deal? Some time ago people thought that black folks shouldnt be allowed to get married for some of the same reasons the bigots on this forum have espoused.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

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good you can count now.

well you are part if that freaks section you just can't exept that some people who are same sex want to ge married i understand were you are coming from but it is there choice not yours so just leave it out ok

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Again, read the title FFS.
I could care less if they want to get hitched but NOT call it what NORMAL people do.

No, homos are not normal people as they have a brain disorder going on. A serious one but again, that is not what I made the thread about. So save your trendy "who cares" comments for the peanut gallery.

If thinking that gay sex is nasty and should not be taught to our kids and done in public makes me a bigot, than lable me the biggest bigot in the world and I am 100% proud of that.

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You can fully back them all you want. It doesn't make it in total agreement with all of society.

source ===> http://www.adherents.com/adh_dem.html

With population numbers in the millions you can easily classify it as normal behavior albeit not mainstream.

Homosexual is a label for a group of people with a certain preference. The odds of you being able to tell one homosexual from regular person are slim. Gay people have a stereotype of acting fruity, but that’s not the common behavior. They act, look, and sound just like you or me. They go to college, work at regular jobs, and they are from all different races and backgrounds. They just have different attractions.

Think about this. What your doing by separating them as a different group of people with values and customs lower than your own. Hitler did the same thing to the Jews just before he started gassing and throwing them into incinerators.

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*Moved to the Pub*

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the whole thing is actually pretty amusing in a disturbing way. The idiots in San Fransisco boasted about how their unions would be better than the straight "sham marriages"... now half of them are wanting divorces.

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oh so in other words you dont so much care that they are getting married but that they use the term 'married'. Well, unfortunalty language conventions being what they are, what they are doing is CALLED marriage. If they own a cat, its still a cat whether or not you want some fudge packer owning such a furry varmint formally addressed by such label.

Im not calling you a bigot because you dont like homosexuality because i for sure dont understand why a man wouldnt want to bone a fine looking woman. Im calling you a bigot because you say the same things the likes of David Duke Bull Conners and their ilk always proclaim

That what 'those' people are doing is wrong evil and should be stopped

That 'those' people are an affront to God and all that is decent

That 'those' people dont deserve to be protected by, and enjoy the same rights as 'our' people.
The only difference between you and them is that instead of bashing a person based off of the melanin content in their skin you base it off of whom they want to f-k. People like that always start off talking about doing it for decency and clean living but given a little time they always resort to murder and savagery to get their way. You can call that trendy but if equal treatment under law as defined by a 200+ year old document is 'trendy' to you then the debate is already over.

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I don't have a lot of time and didn't manage to read all of this, so I'll say this now before I forget.

I'm pretty sure a civil union provides the same legal benefits as a marriage, and civil unions can be between any number of people and has no gender restrictions.

Don't fowel the holy sacament of a man and a woman.

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The definition of the word marriage is defined by society. It is not a static thing, we've grown above that. Pretty much everything in our current society is dynamic, and that's a good thing. I honestly wonder why you're so upset that they get to use the same word for a legal bond. It's been 'marriage' here from the start, and no one ever complained about it. Oh well.

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Hey, Beef Flaps, what's the weather like back there in the 1800s?

Gay or straight, it's no more "normal" or "nasty" than blue or brown eyes. That's a fact. Frankly your narrow mind disgusts me.

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'Normal' is in the eye of the beholder.

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Actually, there are places in this country where all of these liberal principles on family have been applied in full.

They are called "ghettos".

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MY beleif is that the government should not play ANY role in marriage. The government should offer up civil unions for both heteros and homos, and through that system give out the same tax breaks or whatever that are givin out now, for both couples. But the term marriage is an entirely religous one. Each individual religon has it's own concepts of marriage, and it is the church that should be the one who marries two people.

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To the lattest news, the province of quebec is not considered as a ghetto. May I also remember you that we are one of the place where we are renowned to shack'up. Meaning, we get couples to live together without any marriages. Those can be considered as "liberal principles" if you want my opinion.

Looking around, doesn't look getthoish at all.

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Read my statement again.

Liberal principles on family structure have only been applied partially in Quebec.

When drawn to their logical conclusion, marriage is nonexistent, and the government is the universal father - at least as far as the paycheck is concerned.;)

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Normality =/= virtuous.

It used to be normal to beat your wife.
Kill lonely women with cats.
It used to be normal to throw your shit out onto the street.
String up black people for petty crimes
Slavery

I could keep going for hours..

My advice is.. mind your own god damned business, and keep YOUR religious idea’s out of the lives of others. If different Christian/Muslim streams can associate different things with marriage and pretty much everything else, one of them can marry Gay people to each other, outside this forum, who cares what you think?

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Ever considered applying this idea to yourself?

Why force polygamy and gay marriage on everybody else? After all, its YOUR religious belief that other people may disagree with. ;)

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Who is forcing what onto whom? As far as i'm concerned Liberals in the US are just trying to curb the ignorance and hate that has taken root. Just because you don't like what they have to say doesnt mean they are forcing their idea's onto you.

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It doesn't bother me. It's simply none of my business; I have better things to fret about and contort my rectal area over...

We've had same sex marriages up here for a while, and the sky didn't fall, and the world still turns. Nobody cares.

It hasn't threatened me in any way or done anything to my life, or to anyone else that I know.

Marriage is absurd anyway. I don't see why anyone would get into that particular cage. If gays want it, hey, good luck to them...

*cough-suckers-cough*

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So you are comparing mansex to eye color? :lol:
If me being turned off by gay sex disgusts you than so be it.

Really?
Can you really look in the mirror and tell yourself. Its normal for two men pound eachother in the rear? Really?
Sorry but in my world and the world most people live in that is not normal.
Now you've got it!

I'm not trying to stop gay sex by any means (except bi-sexual sex which really fumes me but this is not what this is about) just call it soemthing different than what NORMAL married couples do.

Those freaks are always screaming for attention and when they get it they cry about it. what do they expect? They are just that freaks of nature.
Gte "unionized" and live your life if you want to be gay, who cares but when the word married is mentioned I don't want to have to think dude or chick, that is just wrong.

Perfect:beer:

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I feel left out, you forgot to twist my words around. :)

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You do a good enough job at that yourself without any help.
:beer:

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i could care less if gay people want to get married. ist one of americas mottos. "life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness".
i guess they could change the name from marrage for gay couples to something else. but again i could care less.

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Will anything but some peoples feelings be hurt by allowing same sex marriages?
Yesterday the court here in Denmark ruled that the paper who published those Muhammed drawings did not hurt any ones feeling intentionally.. Which made it ok. The same would go for same sex marriages.
It might even cause the attendance in Churches to go up!
The only problem I see is deciding who's mister and misses when making table arrangements for parties:-)

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I really, don't think so ;)
and who is the quarterback and who is the reciever ;)

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:D
I think it would here in Denmark... Sunday services are often called off due to lacking attendance.

Why is it any discussion regarding homosexuals always end up concerning where they stuff it? A considerable amount of heterosexuals use that entrance also:o ... What people do in privacy is their own business.. The boundary between moral concern and "unholy" curiosity is paperthin:D

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Why not? Sexual preference is just as arbitrary as eye colour.

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I'm not gay, but I don't see why gay people shouldn't have the same rights. Just leave me outta it.

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Good job avoiding the issue :thumbsup:

If you weren't so abrassive you could've be a politician.

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No.
Homosexuality is a disease. Eye color is a trait.
There is no issue.

Besides, today's paper shows un happy results from the state with the word marriage:)
They are going to have to settle for "civil union" and live with it.
:smokin:

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Homosexuality is not unique to our century, or our culture. Homosexual partnerships (as in what marriage is) are not unique to our culture or our century.

Quoted for truth. God willing, America might actually listen to that once in a while.

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Do you have any proof to back that up, whatsoever? Besides the "if you want a penis up your bum you're sick" claim, which is infact the equivilent of saying "bcuz i say so!"?

I do not care for the name marriage itself. I just think that civil unions should have the same name for both straight and gay couples. Either call both marriage, or call both civil unions and keep marriage as a religious cerimony. It's the fact that people like you make such a problem of this and try their best to make them feel different (by giving it a different name) that people do not feel fully equal yet.

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Ummm, you actually need me to prove to you that male butsex is sick? Really?
Homosexuality is not a choice they make, now is it? They are born with it, right?
Right, they are born with a brain disorder, disease, however you want to lable it. The shit ain't normal.
Religion aside, a man and a man were not intended to have sex or breed. it's just not natural. Its 100% abnormal. No matter what MTV or Bravo channel tells you.
Hey if they want to live that sick nasty life I say go right ahead, just call it something other when you want to get hitched is all i am saying.

I don't but hopefully the sane ones in power will :)
Hey kids I know its "cool" these days to not conform and rebel so i know in my heart all of you straight males here know what I am talking about.
Every straight male is turned off by mansex, this I know.