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if thats what you think then fine be it, but i would like to see you go up to every single gay person and tell them that its not right.

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why is it not right to state their actions?

if i saw two men kissing in a side street, i would be angry, i would tell them to get to there home and stay of streets

sadly this is all i can do, as it is not illegel, however they still are not too public about it, as it is still a taboo

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why get angry tho? they are people showing there love.. you wouldnt get pissed if you saw to 5 year olds kissing...or two young lover of different sex...yet if you see two men or two women kissing you would get angry?

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because it is not very nice, it is not normal and i do not think it should be accepted!

sadly the young people today are becoming supporting of homosexuality, wasted life on art and music and becoming like american teenagers, people like me, who are training to be something society needs and agree with real values are slowely becoming smaller in numbers

but this is what american tv and music does to youth

i do like rock music from around the world though, but i do not waste life on it

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ok for one..i dont own a TV i hate it, the music i listen to is Eurpen, and what your saying is you this its wrong? well how about i say that its wrong for anyone to be a different colour then me..or its wrong to look asain and not like me? is that not wrong?

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being diffrent colour is normal though

i could still have a baby with an American or european man so it is not the same as wrong homosexuals

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no im saying that if your not white or anglo saxon you are not meant to be and are wrong...a sub human so to speak. i mean i am in the right to say that arnt i?

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yes you can say it, but it is not true

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same for you :)

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no, homosexuals are not normal, how is it normal for two men to "make love", i mean, do they even have parts for it?

NO, they do not!

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oral sex.....its just like when a women sucks a man...same with a women...its just like when a man licks her out....


you also just proved that your a hypocrite.

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what?

i am a women and i would not do things like using my mouth, thats awful and too men is much worse, very highly worse!

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:Puzzled:.....you ask any guy here if they would want there dick sucked.....

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?
 

what?

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i dont know about the thing with (i think your from China by the photo there) but i am sure that if a girl was to ask a guy if he wanted to be blown he would drop his pants quicker then a dingo shiting...

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maybe, but i am just saying i wouldnt do things like that (use my mouth), it sounds degrading

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its not at all degrading..you just have to look back in history and at the fourms of sexual acts that ocoured....even in the times of the Roman empire after parties there were orgies and same sex happened then. the only time that same sex because "bad" was when the Christians came into power and there warped ways were inposed on the westen world.

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islam thinks it is wrong too, so do other religions

most people think it is wrong because its wrong, cant you see

and why do you think roman empire crumbled?, because of degrading rampant homosexuals and criminals and weak willed leaders who were more interested in same sex lovers than protecting their land!

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no the Roman empire crumbled because of the stupidaty of the govament...and Islam Jews hindus and even budast (i think) think gatness is wrong...these are all things made 1000's of years ago...we are in the 21st centry...if you dont move on you will be stuck in the 10th!

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apart from silly youth, most people in china think homosexuality is wrong and this is modern times

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China also thinks its ok to run over people with tanks....

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and you say i live in past? :rolleyes:

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the big point i am trying to make is that you said its ok for me to say your a asian and you shouldnt be or to a black person he/she shouldnt be and that be ok."even tho im wrong" as you said

but for you to say that gays shouldnt be thats ok..but when i say even tho its wrong...you say no...how is that? why are you a hypocrite?

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that is stupid, being diffrent colours is not a bad thing at all, how can you compair such a thing to vile homosexuals?

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as i said in my PM to you
i accept gay people because i only see them as they are. two people in love with eachother. like me, me and my girlfriend (you think thats ok yes) well she is black and my grandfather is oposed to that. and that hirts me so much. how would you like it if someone says to you no you cant love him because he is white or black or a red head or has blue eyes.

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Hey!

Look at that!

You are incorrect. Homosexuality is not "wrong," any more than being black is wrong.

There's a word for people like you.

Bigots.

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i tihnk you are a homosexual, that is why you just said that

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you look at that! are vile you can't go judge people just becuase there a homosexual what if *hypothetical* you have a brother who you dearly like but you find out he is gay what would you do, i bet you wouldnt disown him, hey. Just think about it peoplelike you are the reason the world isnt moving fowards as much as it could you need to learn how to accept any one.

BTW that is a pathetic comeback i would expect from a 10 year old.

even if he is good on him.

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According to Christianity, it's ok to be gay, but it's not ok to act upon those feelings.
That is because the Church thinks all sex has to be unitive and pro creative, which it can never be between two men (or two women).

I don't understand how God can create homosexuals and say that they're not allowed to act upon their biological urges, but hey, that's the Church for ya.

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thats why i am not religoius lol

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It is. US culture is slowly being taken over by rap/hip-hop/crap. The music glorifies sex, drinking, drugs, violence, ect. The dance that is popuar in states is called "grinding". It involves a man ginding his gentailla on a woman's rear end. I don't like it, but I am not going to go out and try to stop it. I can simply look away and think about other things.

Maybe it has something to do with the devil and sin. You only have one life to live, have fun with it. If fun is meat in poopchute, then enjoy it. If it is a sin, you will just have to spend 10,000 years in purgatory like the rest of us:p

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Mature. Perhaps you should return to this debate when your mental age exceeds 13.

By that logic, infertile people shouldn't be permitted to get married. But they are. Therein lies the fatal flaw in Christianity: It's a load of old shit.

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Exactly.

Even if he was, it would not matter. It does not in any way make his arguments less sound.

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For the record, I'm not, which only serves to make my argument stronger, as I prove it's possible to support a group without being one of them.

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I hope you did read the FAQ when you got here. And the same goes for ANZACSAS. You can make your point too if you didn't say fuck every single time.
Keep it civil and peacefull around here.

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But they tended to keep it secret, rather than run around the place demanding rights for other people like them. And also, a Roman's sense of duty was far in excess of any semblance of patriotism that we have now - they truly believed that they, and their nation, were rightfully masters of the world, and were willing to do anything to achieve for themselves and their kingdom/republic/empire the best outcome possible, even if it meant being party to that sort of thing. It didnt mean they were gay.

And by the way, it is reported by Julius Caesar's biographer, Suetonius, that Caesar participated in sex with Nicomedes the fourth, of Bithynia to ensure the control of Bithynia passed to Rome. Caesar's enemies often used that as an allegation later on in his political career. However, it is something that Caesar vigorously denied all his life.

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In all fairness, Mr. Super Moderator, he did call me gay.

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*i think he is a she but yes to be fair she did call him gay.

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I’d be careful with a comment like that, because by that logic you’d be affirming a lot more than your opinion on homosexuals.

And being a different sexual orientation isn't? It's a human characteristic, just like race.

Being homosexual, being black, whatever: it's all natural. It occurs naturally. Or at least it isn't a choice (in most cases - pertaining to both examples). "Normal" is how prevalent it is in society. Saying that "because something isn't as prevalent in society means it's a bad thing" is ridiculous: that's like me saying that being Asian is bad because there aren't many Asian families in my district.

Hmm. I tihnk you've yet to make a real argument. A real argument is comprised of facts and logic, and all you've done is use nasty adjectives and generalized anecdote to cushion a simplistic opinion that homosexuality is "vile".

Maybe you could enlighten us all and share your reasoning, because I'm certainly interested in knowing.

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The biggest problem homosexuals have, is the church, everything else is surmountable by logic, except the church, which contains little to no logic at all. In some cases the religious front is moving their ‘backing’ to better suit their ideology that homosexuality is the work of the devil. This movement is highlighted in the case below:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061218/ap_on_re_us/episcopalians_split_14

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when ever i ask my friends or just acuteness whats wrong with being gay they all say " wait let me jack off for a few more seconds and then i will tell you" they all say that they have no idea, so what the fuck how can you hate something if you don't know why?



so? if you have a problem with people who are gay you can come over to my house and ill shove this fucking paintball gun up your ass and then we can see what happens.

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I think "wrong" in this case is an opinion, and a rather bad one at that, if I may say so myself.

And the argument that 'because it is not prevalent it is bad' is quite flawed - the written word was not prevalent in the ancient world, many people said it corrupted and degraded the capacity of the human memory, yet nowadays, it is still common, despite the prevalency of electronic devices, and I for one certainly do not think it degrades memory

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Look at that, just out of curiousity, are you a buddhist, or Christian.. or what..?

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I tend to think of myself as being an atheist, but if you go by a certain Saquist's definition of a theist, someone who believes in a greater force than mankind, then i am a theist, since I, naturally, believe in gravity as being a greater force than mankind.

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comeing from a place that runs people down in tanks becasue they can't handle a situation maturly so they just bombared you with violence in this case insults.

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It's perverted no matter wich way you spin it.

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Why?

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What is perverted no matter which way you spin it? Homosexuality? Or something else?

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OK first of all learn how to spell
and
second: whats perverted the Chinese or homosexuality?

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people who do tihngs like that should be sent to prison

i do not believe in god, neither does my father, my mother however is now christian(protistant type), she chose to be a few years ago, which clashes with our values, i find it rather shameful of her to be dragged into such a thing to be honest and my father is very ashamed and does not like to tell people

but she is right about homosexuals being wrong and murder and betraying marriage