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Old November 4th, 2006   #291
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What does Hitler have to do with blacks? That's pretty far fetched, is it not?
I suppose it would be, if you didn’t read what I stated. However it’s plain as day.
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Comparing the rights of homosexuals to marry with "ridding back of the bus", or "Der Fuhrer”.
Notice the key word of ‘or’ in there. What does the word 'or' serve as when written? As always, it suggests an alternative, not a connection.

Several arguments presented here mentioned the civil rights movement. Referring to the oppression and discrimination of blacks in American History. IE 'back of the bus'. There have also been some remarks about hitler, hence my mentioning above. Does it make sense now?

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Yea, the whole argument is just revolving around in a big circle... And the constant comparisons to Hitler are just getting pathetic...I think Nazis are brought up in almost every debate topic on FileFront...
Well Hitler didn't like gays, and neither does Bush, or conservatives, or bigots. So I'd say it is a fair comparison.
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The must fundalmental question is...What are they being prevented from doing. Whiteshark you can't represent Gay/Lesbian. You just haven't been capable of addressing the Issues at hand.

That's not a personal slight that's a read of ability.

If the constitution is to be changed...and Likely something Will happen along those lines in the New GOvernment...

Then What right are we talking about....Right to ......what....? Mary another man? That's happend already. What would this amendment look like? Right to spousal support because I can't support myself? Right to half of everything in the marriage?

When we're dealing with two men the needs become extremely problematic.
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Anyway, I guess all arguments have been stated. Any further debate is pointless. From what I see, certain arguments get ignored and then "omg lolz teh marriage is holy" is repeated constantly.
Yup, pretty much. Really annoying.



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Who cares if two men get married, or two women? Do you seriously lose sleep over it? How can you be THAT bothered by it? I don't mind if they get married...and I'm not losing sleep over it. I've got my life to live - why should I forbid homosexuals equal rights? I remember a time when there was the same stigma about interracial marriage...
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Why are atheists allowed marry?
Because religous rules protect the religious person, and the people around him. So an atheist gets the same rights as the religous person - at least in Western Christianity.

An atheist can marry just like a religious person. But he can't marry his dog, religious or not.
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Why are atheist allowed to Mary?

That's not the question: The question is why would they want to?
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That's not the question: The question is why would they want to?
What makes you think our reasons, or for that matter homosexuals' reasons, differ from your reasons
  1. It's traditional and customary (though increasingly less so) to marry when you've decided to live together for the rest of your life.
  2. It grants you financial benefits by many nations' governments.
  3. It's believed by many (though I believe the number is decreasing) to strenghten your relationship.
I could just as easily ask why on Earth followers of various mythologies want to marry. It's a tradition founded by atheists, after all:
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It's believed by many (though I believe the number is decreasing) to strenghten your relationship.
Yes. Its no wonder that the rates of single motherhood are skyrocketing.

Its sad and funny how people have knocked down the institution, yet acted surprised when the problems it was preventing come back.
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What makes you think our reasons, or for that matter homosexuals' reasons, differ from your reasons
  1. It's traditional and customary (though increasingly less so) to marry when you've decided to live together for the rest of your life.
  2. It grants you financial benefits by many nations' governments.
  3. It's believed by many (though I believe the number is decreasing) to strenghten your relationship.
I could just as easily ask why on Earth followers of various mythologies want to marry. It's a tradition founded by atheists, after all:
I thought you were bored and annoyed.
Actually yes, it is the question. You're stealing customs too. And I'm sure you're aware that the earliest recorded occurance is actually biblical. Which one you chose to adopt as numero uno is as fickled as a dipped pickle.
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