Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?

[TheMM]

Originally Posted by Afterburner

What rights besides Marriage(a religous sacament, as it has been since the beginning of human civilization)do you lack, exactly? And as I already said, I'm for Civili Unions, but the term marriage is a religous one, and should be left up to religous folk to use.

I was mainly going for a Civil Union thing, as you mentioned.

No, I for one feel you're completely right.

Thanks.

I could really care less what the homosexual element wants, or needs. It's not a priority of mine to concern myself one way or the other with the sexual habits of others, but as far as the quote above goes. Let me just say, you hit the nail on the head!

Rep for you when possible. (It says I can’t give you anymore right now.)

I think I might implement my statement into my sig, I rather like it. Also thanks for the rep when you can give it to me.

Yeah. Maybe it did about 4 or 500 years ago, but not anymore, when science has taken its place so thoroughly.

Yep, religion's fall in politics truly began with Henry the 8th. That's when things got real messy.

[The Don 18]

This whole topic about gay marriage is a non-issue.

A couple of things I would like to point out here. Traditions can be changed. Slavery can be abolished. Marriage can come to include two men or two women. In the end, it should only be focused around who loves who, not whose penis is going into this man's ass. Who cares what two fags down the street do to eachother at night? It is no one's business but there's. If they do not effect you, then shut the fuck up.

This isn't pedophile legislation. If that were the case, then it would effect you because your children would be at risk by sick perverts who are out to satisfy their sick fetishes.

I am against stupidity, but you don't see me yelling at all the idiots posting their bigotry in this thread.

Yay for fag marriage, no to the stupidity that exists enmass in America.

[beef flaps]

Originally Posted by The Don 18

This whole topic about gay marriage is a non-issue.

To you, maybe it is.

Traditions can be changed.

This one should be left alone for the straight people, like it always has.

Marriage can come to include two men or two women.

No, a Civil Union can, not marriage.

you, then shut the fuck up.

omgz, make me!

I am against stupidity, but you don't see me yelling at all the idiots posting their bigotry in this thread.

Clever. I am also against idiots who believe the opposite that I do, but you don't see me calling them idiots.

[Fire Legion]

Originally Posted by beef flaps

Clever. I am also against idiots who believe the opposite that I do, but you don't see me calling them idiots.

I agree he was rude, but on main topic...

Originally Posted by beef flaps

This one should be left alone for the straight people, like it always has.

Why? Just because something is 'tradition', doesn't mean it should be upheld at all costs, or more specifically the cost of the rights of gays.

[beef flaps]

Originally Posted by Fire Legion

Why? Just because something is 'tradition', doesn't mean it should be upheld at all costs, or more specifically the cost of the rights of gays.

Why invade on our tradition at all?
Its like a screaming kid at the supermarket.
Nobody is denying them their legal rights here, at least not me. Just the name they want to steal bothers me.
Calling two men married is not only abnormal but just plain wrong.
When a kid is told someone is married that kid should not have to wonder what sex they are.
Talk about dysfunctional.

[homo sine domino]

Originally Posted by beef flaps

Why invade on our tradition at all?
Its like a screaming kid at the supermarket.
Nobody is denying them their legal rights here, at least not me. Just the name they want to steal bothers me.
Calling two men married is not only abnormal but just plain wrong.
When a kid is told someone is married that kid should not have to wonder what sex they are.
Talk about dysfunctional.

Read a few pages back about the Christian holidays thing.

J00 stole our holidays!!!!11!!

When a kid is told about Christmas, presents shouldn't be the first thing that comes to mind.... Same logic, yet atheists celebrate Christmas.

[beef flaps]

Originally Posted by WhiteShark

Read a few pages back about the Christian holidays thing.

J00 stole our holidays!!!!11!!

When a kid is told about Christmas, presents shouldn't be the first thing that comes to mind.... Same logic, yet atheists celebrate Christmas.

Apples/oranges

[Mr. Pedantic]

He does have a point. the christmas thing is applicable here, just requires a bit of twisting around.

[Lyon]

Traditions can be changed.

If a tradition is "changed" it is no longer tradition. Tradition is something that stays the way it is.

What a stupid thing to say.

As I said Marriage is defined by the joining of a man and a woman. Two men is not marriage, they should really make it a separate ceremony or whatever, not change one that is already there.

[Afterburner]

Marriage is the religous ceremony that unites a man in a woman in the eyes of God and a particular religon. A Civil Union unites any two people into a legally recognized union, iwth equal rights no matter who happens to get it.

What is the problem with this set up? Wouldn't it appease all parties?