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Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?

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Originally Posted by ZeRoNiTe (Post 3331541)

...Is nothing sacred?

Not any more these days with all the "open minded" people.
Sadly.

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?

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Originally Posted by beef flaps (Post 3331563)

Not any more these days with all the "open minded" people.
Sadly.

There already were societies that accepted homosexuality as quite normal, things are only turning back to how they used to be before Christianity got such an influence over us.
If gay sex helps to decrease religious fundamentalism I'm all for it (as long as I don't have to participate).

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?

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Not all gays celebrate "gay pride". And the ones who do, don't necessarily do it at the gay parade.

Another disclaimer? Do you think I didn't know this?

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If you were not granted the rights of the first amendment, because someone thinks you shouldn't be granted those rights, I don't think you'd simply accept it.

Tell you what, I'll strip down to a banana hammock and gyrate my crotch in your face for two hours and we'll see if my free expression isn't trappling over your right of viewing discrimination.

Public....It's public.
Public means it belongs to everyone.
Private means its yours to do what you will.

It should be censored. I don't know what you thinki censoring is but I think it's putting a pair of Levi's on.

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?

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Originally Posted by Afterburner (Post 3330626)

"Gay marriage" is an oxymoron, because marriage is the union of a man and a woman. And don't throw me that bullshit about how we can change the definition. If that is the case then from now on I shall extend the meaning of the word "tree" to include small children.

Appeal to Ridicule

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Originally Posted by Afterburner (Post 3330626)

Create Civil Unions that both straights and gays and get to receive the benefits a married couple currently receive, and then let Churchs' deal with marriage.

I'm not sure how it works in the US, but in Germany marriage doesn't have anything to do with "the church(es)", unless of course the couple wants it.

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Originally Posted by CKY2K (Post 3330638)

Ok lets say I walk down the street with a sign that says F*CK or walk around shouting penis or swear and tell dirty jokes while old women and children walk past... If someone dosen't want to see me or hear me thats their problem right ??? Or if I arrest someone for the following ^ for being a public nuisance thats wrong right because they are not hurting anyone and are just expressing themselves?

I never said so. Besides, there are straight people who act like that. 'nuff said.

I fail to see how this is an argument against gay marriage. I'm sure, if they were "given the right" (ridiculous that such rights must be request these days...) to marry (-> marriage, not civil union), I'm sure they would people would have no problem stopping the "inflatable penis" thing and the like.

I can't relate to the opinion. Gays aren't allowed to marry, they go onto the streets. You are annoyed by the gay people and blame them?

To me it seems that you don't want to see gays protesting (on the streets). Whether they carry an inflatable penis or not.

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Originally Posted by Pethegreat (Post 3330644)

Well the ones with the inflatable penises and vaginas are not making it any better for those who don't have them.

I'm not saying that inflatable penises and vaginas are right. I fail to see why they should not be allowed to marry.

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Originally Posted by Pethegreat (Post 3330644)

They have the same rights. Marrige is not a right, it is a privlage. The US constution says nothing about marriage. You don't need to be married to someone to stick your meat into their anus. You don't need to be married to leave your lover your poessions in your will.

Yay, insults... bring it on! :banana:

Neither does a straight couple. Why not remove "marriage" altogether?

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice (Post 3330649)

And you're acting like that's not normal. But it is normal.

Europe > US.

The US is a joke when it comes to such things.

"We're superpower #1 in the world, but hey, gays aren't allowed to marry!" :n0e: :vikki:

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice (Post 3330663)

Tax breaks for marriage serve a useful purpose. Gay marriage doesn't.

Gay marriages don't serve a useful purpose, because ...?

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Originally Posted by ZeRoNiTe (Post 3331541)

Marriage is defined as the union of a MAN and a WOMAN.

Two men can not be "Married"

...Is nothing sacred?

Appeal to Tradition

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Originally Posted by beef flaps (Post 3331563)

Not any more these days with all the "open minded" people.
Sadly.

We already discussed the whole God argument, didn't we?

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Originally Posted by Saquist (Post 3331663)

As I said. One gay person < all gay people.

Equal rights for everyone.. or not? Last time I checked Justice was blind.

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As I said. One gay person < all gay people.

Equal rights for everyone.. or not? Last time I checked Justice was blind

tHAT'S RIGHT and the rights being trampled on are the ones concerned. There is no "right to offend your neighbor clause...

There is no right to blow smoke in your neighbors space.

There is no right to piss in public water fountains

There is however laws against indecent exposure....

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?

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Originally Posted by WhiteShark (Post 3331768)

We already discussed the whole God argument,

My reply to it being sacred has nothing to do with religion.
thanks

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?

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WhiteShark;3331768]Appeal to RidiculeI'm not sure how it works in the US, but in Germany marriage doesn't have anything to do with "the church(es)", unless of course the couple wants it.I never said so. Besides, there are straight people who act like that. 'nuff said.

I fail to see how this is an argument against gay marriage. I'm sure, if they were "given the right" (ridiculous that such rights must be request these days...) to marry (-> marriage, not civil union), I'm sure they would people would have no problem stopping the "inflatable penis" thing and the like.

Lets see if someday people can marry animals because animal lovers are considered a minority... < Yea, lets give into everything... Right?

Oh and by the way this Minority crap is Bullsh*t . I consider minority's about race not a bunch of queers running around slapping each other with dildos.

Lets say people who cheat on their spouses are minoritys. < Oh sh*t maybe someday that will be ok too!

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I can't relate to the opinion. Gays aren't allowed to marry, they go onto the streets. You are annoyed by the gay people and blame them?

To me it seems that you don't want to see gays protesting (on the streets). Whether they carry an inflatable penis or not.

Well to be honest... I don't. I think they need to keep their buisness to themselves.

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?

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Originally Posted by CKY2K (Post 3331925)

Lets see if someday people can marry animals because animal lovers are considered a minority... < Yea, lets give into everything... Right?

Once again, Appeal to Ridicule

You even quoted the part containing the link.

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Originally Posted by CKY2K (Post 3331925)

Oh and by the way this Minority crap is Bullsh*t . I consider minority's about race not a bunch of queers running around slapping each other with dildos.

Slapping each other..? Sources?

Hasty Generalization
Composition
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It's called "minority" for a reason. So your definition of "minority" is the following?

minority = racial minority

:n0e:

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Originally Posted by CKY2K (Post 3331925)

Lets say people who cheat on their spouses are minoritys. < Oh sh*t maybe someday that will be ok too!

Yeah, go ahead, why not compare gays to pedophiles (again..), murderers and rapists?

Appeal to Ridicule

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Originally Posted by CKY2K (Post 3331925)

Well to be honest... I don't. I think they need to keep their buisness to themselves.

I don't see the "inflatable" penis thing as justified, but I do think they should be able to marry.

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Fallacies! :banana:

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If two people want to live miserably, I say let them...

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?

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Originally Posted by WhiteShark (Post 3332047)

It's called "minority" for a reason. So your definition of "minority" is the following?

minority = racial minority

Appeal to RidiculeI don't see the "inflatable" penis thing as justified, but I do think they should be able to marry.

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Fallacies! :banana:

My definition of Minority is racial. In all political sense it is. Gay and Lesbian is Life Style...and their are all types of life style...
When we're dealing with such incredibly important issues such as race and genocide Gay and Lesbians are trying to make their own corner of politics for what?

Allimony? Spousal Support?

I don't get it... Women were underpaid for generations and all of a sudden becaise she's suffered wrong you desrve it too?

THAT is a fallacy!
Not to mention a perversion of justise to women and blacks and every other true minority.

All this for money? Unbelievable...