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So lets take a tally of the arguments. Feel free to quote me and add some more. Lets make a visual list of pros and cons so our original points don't become so skewed.

Pro Gay Rights:
*Let them be who are
*Its not a disease, its a status
*There are many countries around the world that have long histories of acceptance of homosexuals.
*There are millions of people who classify themselves as homosexual, so many that it is indeed commonplace.
*Any group has the right to perform legal assemblies.

Against Gay Rights
*Its unnatural
*Its against the bible
*Its a disease
*No man should have another mans manmeat thrust into him
*Beef says its a disease
*(Christian) Religion says marriage is between one man and one woman.
*Its just nasty from everyone’s point of view.

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What about my moderate position?

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i live in the middle of San Francisco and about two blocks from the Castro so i think that two guys kissing is ok (but that does gross me out to)
so not letting gay people get married is fucken stupid thats like saying i can't kiss a girl at the age of 13 its just a stupid thing to waste time on.

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Yeah, that's about the black and white of it. The more moderate views are combinations of different views of these points.

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Ok I got to get back in this for a sec. I've seen gays march on tv. And Many act Perverse sexual and like to flaunt they're homosexuality to those who don't want to see it. They dress up as women and dance around in thongs. Ewww. Talk about giving yourself a negative image... Anyways my boss was gay at my last job and I diddn't know until we became friends. Now I suspected of course. There's certain steriotypical mannorisms that do distinguish them from the straight community. And although steriotypical in nature most homosexuals do act this way. He was very mature about it and diddn't draw attention to it and I respected him for that. Once I found out and he seen I was ok to it he started to tell me how he thought here and there. I was suprised when I found out he thought everyone,including straights
should not spread their sexual buisness around, He thought it was stupid to teach anything about homosexuality in schools , because he said it probably just closes peoples minds more to the fact because they are being forced to listen in a place and at a time they don't want to. He said life expieriences are better. They help you understand better. Oh yea and he was against gay marriage. He said that it was a Hetrosexual custom and unless we agree they can do it too then homosexuals should respect that. I totally agree. I learned alot from him and he's still my friend even though I no longer work there.

P.S. Gay is a sexual preference right??? Well my question is: When did it turn into a complete personallity for so many? And why? I mean if a gay guy is taking a woman's role... well I don't know any women who act like alot of the ones i've seen... No offence. I'm not saying all queers act this way as I said before my old boss dosen't...

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Yeah, gays are just like other people - its not like if you're gay, you have to act gay. some are pretty cool, and some are complete dickheads.

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Right just like any other person. I hate it when straight people say a bunch of perverse things and I gotta sit there and listen to it. Drives me nuts... Some people need to get Self-Control... Hey what happened to good ol' fashoned manners? :uhm: Oh yea Guys like Jerry Springer killed em...

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You mean, when did they get their own flag, their own way to talk and laugh and their own way to move? Hell if I know, and I quite frankly don't think it's doing anyone any good. It draws a line where there should not be one.

And gay "pride"? I support their movement all the way, but what's there to be proud of?

My own PS: Of course I'm not saying most or all gays are like that.

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Their own identity. If you're not prud of who you are, you're not fully human. If you're afraid/ashamed of telling others who you are, then you can never be proud of who you are.

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But why act flamboyant and.... Perverted like some do??? There's your negative steriotyping. People label themselves others just call it as they see it...