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Joe Bonham October 29th, 2006 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffro (Post 3324923)
If the civil rights movement didn't "make a bunch of noise", would they be accepted in society today? Rosa Parks wouldn't give up her seat, which made a bunch of noise. Martin Luther King Jr. made a speech in Washington D.C. with tons of supporters and that made a bunch of noise. A bunch of non-violent noise is necessary in order for a movement to make progress. Sitting on your hands and not speaking up does nothing...
The noise makers in the civil rights movement increased racial strife, not decreased it. It was the clear headed thinking moralists like Martin Luther King who made the real progress.

Marching in big demonstrations with giant inflatable penises isn't going to win anyone over to one's side.

Reno October 29th, 2006 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice (Post 3325106)
The noise makers in the civil rights movement increased racial strife, not decreased it. It was the clear headed thinking moralists like Martin Luther King who made the real progress.

Marching in big demonstrations with giant inflatable penises isn't going to win anyone over to one's side.
Big demonstrations have their purpose. They bring peoples attention to the fact that there is a problem. In the case of homosexuals it shatters people's belief that it the gay community is a small number of people not worthy of being accommodated.

When you see millions of people get together in order to make a point it’s quite shaking. Do you remember all that business with the Mexican demonstrations a few months ago? They showed up in force in almost every big city. They scared the crap out of the politicians.

Joe Bonham October 29th, 2006 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob L. Scrachy (Post 3325121)
Big demonstrations have their purpose. They bring peoples attention to the fact that there is a problem. In the case of homosexuals it shatters people's belief that it the gay community is a small number of people not worthy of being accommodated.
Or just annoy everyone else and block traffic.

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When you see millions of people get together in order to make a point it’s quite shaking. Do you remember all that business with the Mexican demonstrations a few months ago? They showed up in force in almost every big city. They scared the crap out of the politicians.
Mexico is going to hell. The whole political structure is collapsing into anarchy. Not exactly an example I would want to use for civil rights progress.;)

Reno October 29th, 2006 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice (Post 3325124)
Or just annoy everyone else and block traffic.

Mexico is going to hell. The whole political structure is collapsing into anarchy. Not exactly an example I would want to use for civil rights progress.;)
I wasn't talking about mexico i was talking about mexicans..... demonstrating in the us. ;)

Mexico has always had a screwed up government, but that is besides the point.

Jeffro October 29th, 2006 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice (Post 3325124)
Or just annoy everyone else and block traffic.
Just like those pesky Blacks. ;)

http://faculty.washington.edu/gregor...ghts_march.jpg

Mr. Pedantic October 29th, 2006 10:35 PM
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Well, if it weren't for the politicians and the Church...

homo sine domino October 30th, 2006 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pethegreat (Post 3324913)
That is one of the worst comparisions I have herd of. You can change your hair color very easily. You can hide the true color of you hair. You can change anything on your body or your mind.
But neither does one choose his/her sexual preference nor does one choose his/her natural hair color. It is a valid comparison.

And why should people hide their true hair color? Just so shallow society accepts 'em?
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Originally Posted by Pethegreat (Post 3324913)
Why do gays go about their movement for "equality" like they do? Comming out and making a bunch of noise is not the way to get your group accepted into society.
Well, keepin' the mouth shut won't get them accepted anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by Spider149 (Post 3324920)
I think the ancient Romans and Greeks were a lot more relaxed and open about homosexuality and things like that, so I think it would be more 'normal' for ancient people to live close to, work with, or do stuff with a homosexual. I dont think they would have minded that the Church sort of denounced homosexuals. I don't think the homosexuals would have been too happy, though.
Ya. Although they were "relaxed" with other things too, such as slavery, I think what you posted can be seen as a positive example.

Joe Bonham October 30th, 2006 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffro (Post 3325197)
Not an inflatable penis, obscene image, or porno poster in sight.

Safe-Keeper October 30th, 2006 03:48 PM
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You know this how, personal experience or just observation?
You're shifting the burden of proof. You make the accusation, you prove it.

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That is one of the worst comparisions I have herd of. You can change your hair color very easily. You can hide the true color of you hair. You can change anything on your body or your mind.
Likewise you can hide the fact that you are gay. But just like you're blonde underneath your brown hair-dye, you are homosexual under your gay facade.

Fez Boy October 30th, 2006 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice (Post 3325776)
Not an inflatable penis, obscene image, or porno poster in sight.
So?


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