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Datarock December 25th, 2006 04:33 PM

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?
 
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Originally Posted by baney3 (Post 3446648)
who me?

No, i dont think he wasnt talking to you mate.:)

SuperFantastic December 25th, 2006 04:35 PM

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no that look at that, baney i repect you and every 1 else minus look at that she lost it

Look at that! December 25th, 2006 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by captwill (Post 3446657)
no that look at that, baney i repect you and every 1 else minus look at that she lost it

what have i lost?

SuperFantastic December 25th, 2006 04:43 PM

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Respet

Look at that! December 25th, 2006 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by captwill (Post 3446665)
Respet

do you mean respect?

alot of people disagree with homosexuality on here, but only i lose your respect

homosexuality is not normal, why should i think it is, who are you to tell me it is normal?

SuperFantastic December 25th, 2006 04:50 PM

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first of spelling police RESPECT second i tell it is normal as i know a gay person he seems normal 2 me

Look at that! December 25th, 2006 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by captwill (Post 3446675)
first of spelling police RESPECT second i tell it is normal as i know a gay person he seems normal 2 me

so you have homosexual friends?

you are only 14, be careful around them and do not accept things from them

Datarock December 25th, 2006 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3446668)
homosexuality is not normal

Ok, why is homosexuality not normal? Is it because they happen to be attracted to the same sex, because if thats the case they are still normal, just with slightly different emotions towards different people. They dont have green skin do they?, or a tail, because then you can definatley say that they arent normal.

baney3 December 25th, 2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3446689)
so you have homosexual friends?

you are only 14, be careful around them and do not accept things from them

:wtf its not like their rapists. oh ya don't take what they give you i might be a bomb.

oh ya and i thought you might want to know
Spoiler:
i have gay friends too!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at that! December 25th, 2006 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baney3 (Post 3446703)
:wtf its not like their rapists. oh ya don't take what they give you i might be a bomb.

oh ya and i thought you might want to know
Spoiler:
i have gay friends too!!!!!!!!!!!!

i do not think it is healthy for 14 year olds to be friends with such people

Datarock December 25th, 2006 05:25 PM

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Why not?

Look at that! December 25th, 2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin1701 (Post 3446729)
Why not?

what do parents say about being around such people?

Datarock December 25th, 2006 05:39 PM

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Right, now you are getting me to answer for you. My parents dont mind if i go out socialising with some friends who may well be gay. I cant speak for anyone else's parents, what rules they make up for their children is none of my business, but i find it highly unlikely that they would stop there offsprings going out just because of the sexuality of their friend/s.

deathwarder December 25th, 2006 05:40 PM

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I think that the whole idea(and this is just a guess) that homosexuality is bad arises from a natural tendency of humans to disgriminate against those different from them. People justify it with the bible, but again the bible was written thousands of years ago, when tolerance of others was exceptional, not expected.

Look at that! December 25th, 2006 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin1701 (Post 3446739)
Right, now you are getting me to answer for you. My parents dont mind if i go out socialising with some friends who may well be gay. I cant speak for anyone else's parents, what rules they make up for their children is none of my business, but i find it highly unlikely that they would stop there offsprings going out just because of the sexuality of their friend/s.

my mother and father would not tolerate such a thing!

baney3 December 25th, 2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3446751)
my mother and father would not tolerate such a thing!

do you think we care?

i have friends who are gay because i'm open minded.:deal:you should try it.

Datarock December 25th, 2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by deathwarder (Post 3446742)
I think that the whole idea(and this is just a guess) that homosexuality is bad arises from a natural tendency of humans to disgriminate against those different from them.

Absolutely correct!!

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3446751)
my mother and father would not tolerate such a thing!

Whyever not? If your best friend turned gay would you not be allowed to see him/her again, or would you just "disown/forget about" him/her just because you think he/she is not normal? I am interested to know.

Look at that! December 25th, 2006 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin1701 (Post 3446762)
Whyever not? If your best friend turned gay would you not be allowed to see him/her again, or would you just "disown/forget about" him/her just because you think he/she is not normal? I am interested to know.

they would not like it, my mother is christian believer and my father just hates it alot

Datarock December 25th, 2006 06:12 PM

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Ok, fair enough, but would you be kind enough to answer the question i previously posted?

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Originally Posted by Gavin1701 (Post 3446762)
If your best friend turned gay would you not be allowed to see him/her again, or would you just "disown/forget about" him/her just because you think he/she is not normal?


Look at that! December 25th, 2006 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin1701 (Post 3446779)
Ok, fair enough, but would you be kind enough to answer the question i previously posted?

well i would not be friends with such a beast anymore

Datarock December 25th, 2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3446789)
well i would not be friends with such a beast anymore

:cort:, What about a member of family, would you cut them out of your life to?

Look at that! December 25th, 2006 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin1701 (Post 3446792)
:cort:, What about a member of family, would you cut them out of your life to?

yes, i do not see why you do not understand, me and my family do not accept such things

Datarock December 25th, 2006 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3446795)
yes, i do not see why you do not understand, me and my family do not accept such things

I understand perfectly and it seems like this statement applies to you alot.
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Originally Posted by deathwarder (Post 3446742)
I think that the whole idea(and this is just a guess) that homosexuality is bad arises from a natural tendency of humans to disgriminate against those different from them.

:gpost:

baney3 December 25th, 2006 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3446795)
yes, i do not see why you do not understand, me and my family do not accept such things

if your family believes that ok fine BUT whats so bad about being gay(and i do't want some half ass reply, i want a real, solid reply.)

Datarock December 25th, 2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by baney3 (Post 3446820)
(and i do't want some half ass reply, i want a real, solid reply.)

Thats also what i've been wanting.

Emperor Benedictine December 26th, 2006 03:08 AM

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racial grouping is not the same as same sex love, which is mental health problem
If you consider it a "mental health problem" would you treat clinically depressed people the same way?

Mature, well-developed individuals ought to know that just because a thing causes them to feel disgusted or uncomfortable, doesn't mean it's wrong.

Rich19 December 26th, 2006 05:21 AM

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Look at that!, do you deny the Chinese government uses propaganda?

Look at that! December 26th, 2006 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rich19 (Post 3447262)
Look at that!, do you deny the Chinese government uses propaganda?

well i do not see any used, so i do not think that they do

Mr. Pedantic December 26th, 2006 09:34 AM

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I think its inevitable that a society where one faction has such autonomous power would use propaganda to justify their actions and existence to the common people - there is still propaganda of Mao Ze-dong being 'circulated' around in China, making him look a hero.

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they would not like it, my mother is christian believer and my father just hates it alot
But the thing is, that they are not you, so they do not represent your wants and wishes completely even at the best of times, let alone on an issue as 'prickly' as this.

Rich19 December 26th, 2006 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3447438)
well i do not see any used, so i do not think that they do

Alright, which would you say is better - growing oranges or raising children?

Mr. Pedantic December 26th, 2006 09:40 AM

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What does that have to do with propaganda?

I think raising children

Rich19 December 26th, 2006 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider149 (Post 3447543)
What does that have to do with propaganda?

I think raising children

I'll tell you when Look at that! answers. I assure you it is relavent.

Look at that! December 26th, 2006 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rich19 (Post 3447536)
Alright, which would you say is better - growing oranges or raising children?

i tihnk raising children the right way, to have rightattitude to life, so they do not end up like homosexual supporting, upsetting their parents youth like you!

baney3 December 26th, 2006 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baney3 (Post 3446820)
if your family believes that ok fine BUT whats so bad about being gay(and i do't want some half ass reply, i want a real, solid reply.)

look at that
please answer this.

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3447596)
i tihnk raising children the right way, to have rightattitude to life, so they do not end up like homosexual supporting, upsetting their parents youth like you!

you are so messed up, i can't tell you how pissed i am.

Safe-Keeper December 26th, 2006 11:41 AM

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Homosexuality is not contagious. Adopted children of homosexual parents are not more likely to become homosexuals themselves. This claim is supported by statistics from all countries that have chosen to be mature enough to allow adoption by homosexual parents.

Likewise with people who have homosexual friends. They do not risk becoming homosexuals themselves. It really is that simple.

In short: There is no reason to dislike a certain sexual orientation.

Sedistix December 26th, 2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 3447730)
In short: There is no reason to dislike a certain sexual orientation.

Not necessarily, as those who are in deep denial about their own sexuality have very good reasons. Homophobia projected onto others is directly related to insecurities with their own sexuality.
If you are truly comfortable with your own orientation, then what does it matter what anyone else does?

Rich19 December 26th, 2006 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3447438)
well i do not see any used, so i do not think that they do

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3447596)
i tihnk raising children the right way, to have rightattitude to life, so they do not end up like homosexual supporting, upsetting their parents youth like you!

I assume, then, that you don't live in Xinfeng County, in Jiangxi Province. The government there has decided that a lot of money can be made growing oranges in that part of China. And so the propaganda shows how good growing oranges is. The photo in this book (bottom right) is an example of government propaganda:



You see? The government DOES use propaganda, whether you like it or not. Did you arrive at your opinion of homosexuals by carefully weighing up both sides, or have you just "known it is wrong" for as long as you can remember?

SuperFantastic December 26th, 2006 12:56 PM

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becuase she does not have a open mind and is gullable to what people tell her.

Look at that! December 26th, 2006 01:05 PM

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?
 
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Originally Posted by rich19 (Post 3447760)
I assume, then, that you don't live in Xinfeng County, in Jiangxi Province. The government there has decided that a lot of money can be made growing oranges in that part of China. And so the propaganda shows how good growing oranges is. The photo in this book (bottom right) is an example of government propaganda:



You see? The government DOES use propaganda, whether you like it or not. Did you arrive at your opinion of homosexuals by carefully weighing up both sides, or have you just "known it is wrong" for as long as you can remember?

that is just encouraging people to grow oranges, it is no diffrent to endorsing recycling or saying how good a career is in a certain field

i am sure your recruitment posters for your tyrant American Army just say how good it is and you will be best for joining!

SuperFantastic December 26th, 2006 01:09 PM

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you know it is propaganda or you woulnt have said
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i am sure your recruitment posters for your tyrant American Army just say how good it is and you will be best for joining!
as a counter argument.

Rich19 December 26th, 2006 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3447826)
that is just encouraging people to grow oranges, it is no diffrent to endorsing recycling or saying how good a career is in a certain field

i am sure your recruitment posters for your tyrant American Army just say how good it is and you will be best for joining!

Okay... 1 - I'm not American.

2 - "just say how good it is and you will be best for joining!" is just encouraging people to grow oranges, it is no diffrent to endorsing recycling or saying how good a career is in a certain field

3 - Did you only recently form your opinion of homosexuals by carefully weighing up good and bad sides, or have you always thought the same way about them for as long as you can remember?

4 - That edition of the book also describes how the Chinese version of the book has been censored. It makes no mention of any decendants of Mao, as the English version of the book does. Still deny any Chinese propaganda effort exists? Censoring is, after all, an important part of propaganda.

Look at that! December 26th, 2006 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rich19 (Post 3447884)
Okay... 1 - I'm not American.

2 - "just say how good it is and you will be best for joining!" is just encouraging people to grow oranges, it is no diffrent to endorsing recycling or saying how good a career is in a certain field

3 - Did you only recently form your opinion of homosexuals by carefully weighing up good and bad sides, or have you always thought the same way about them for as long as you can remember?

4 - That edition of the book also describes how the Chinese version of the book has been censored. It makes no mention of any decendants of Mao, as the English version of the book does. Still deny any Chinese propaganda effort exists? Censoring is, after all, an important part of propaganda.

i disagree with homosexuals, i do not find it normal, i once did not think about the issue, but now i have made my mind it is not normal

things are censored all over world for peoples protection, only westerners make a point out of it and say how diffrent it is when another country does it


i think you are small minded, i am not dumb, i have been to good schools, as you can see i can speak and write very good English, it is most proberbly that i am smarter than many people on here, so stop trying to always imply i am stupid and idiot

Fez Boy December 26th, 2006 02:45 PM

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Everyone in the thread, with the exception of Look at that! herself, needs to bear one important fact in mind.

Look at that! has been brought up in a country where tolerance is shunned, and obedience to the archaic way of life is paramount. Basically, it's a contrast of cultures: Her culture of hating everything different, and ours of accepting things for what they are.

I've given up trying to debate with Look at that! and I recommend that you do the same. Whatever you say, she will not acknowledge it. It is not because she's a bad person, it's not because she's "vile." It's because she's been brought up to have a closed mind.

SuperFantastic December 26th, 2006 02:53 PM

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well she should then bring here self up to open her mind.

Look at that! December 26th, 2006 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by captwill (Post 3447964)
well she should then bring here self up to open her mind.

my mind is open, it is you who has closed mind, you are just an English boy


many people have diffrent views on this forum, however people constantly attack mine, if i was not from a country westerners are brainwashed to hate you would not be making such an issue out of me

Datarock December 26th, 2006 03:17 PM

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Stop using his age as a way to attack him. You DO NOT have an open mind as stated by you in many of your previous posts.

Karst December 26th, 2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3448008)
my mind is open, it is you who has closed mind, you are just an English boy


many people have diffrent views on this forum, however people constantly attack mine, if i was not from a country westerners are brainwashed to hate you would not be making such an issue out of me

It's not directly because of where you're from....it's your radically different opinions that spark constant criticism.
In western world, most people realize there's nothing inherently wrong with homosexuality. So your opinion is simply at odds with that.

SuperFantastic December 26th, 2006 03:24 PM

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if you had a open mind you could except age, race or sexuality we are not brainwashed to hate infact i didnt even know you were from china when i started arguing about your exteame opinions. i bite my thum at you, i sugest you go and expand your mind. And as far as the age thing goes at least i have the comman sence to except gay people thats who they are and i am fine with what ever they do, it is a free world afterall.

Fez Boy December 26th, 2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Look at that! (Post 3448008)
my mind is open, it is you who has closed mind, you are just an English boy


many people have diffrent views on this forum, however people constantly attack mine, if i was not from a country westerners are brainwashed to hate you would not be making such an issue out of me

Observe, if you will, my responses to Beef Flaps in the opening stages of this thread. You will note that I am just as hostile to those westerners whose minds are as closed as yours.

Look at that! December 26th, 2006 04:19 PM

Re: Do you Jim take John to be your lawfully wedded something or other?
 
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Originally Posted by captwill (Post 3448024)
if you had a open mind you could except age, race or sexuality we are not brainwashed to hate infact i didnt even know you were from china when i started arguing about your exteame opinions. i bite my thum at you, i sugest you go and expand your mind. And as far as the age thing goes at least i have the comman sence to except gay people thats who they are and i am fine with what ever they do, it is a free world afterall.

the only thing you state i do not accept is homosexuals

and why should i accept such a horrible trait


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