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Re: Pope offendes muslims

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Originally Posted by Afterburner

How far do you have to look? All I was indicating was that in this particular scenario both sides arn't willing to forgive, so the feud continues.

No, I am not supporting it. I've always advocated relgious tolerance. One of my friends growing up when I was little was a Muslim and he is still our neighbor. I live in one of the largest concentrations of Muslims and Arabs outside of the middle-east, and I can hear the Muslim call to prayer every day. Within a 2 mile radius from my house there are atleast three mosques that I can think of. I've probaly had more contact with Arabs and Muslims then anyone besides a few on these forums. And I have never, ever, ever had a sinlge problem with any of this, and I have infact been friends with many of them.

I am merely pointing out the fact that neither side is ready to forgive and forget because when one sides does something the other side gets into a huffy about it. The only difference being in the way they react.

I'll make sure to go tell that to my Chrisitan friend who just went over the summer to Nicaruga to help build a school. Or maybe I should tell it to my school's campus minister who organizes school field trips to a thing called Focus:Hope where we helped package up food bundles to be sent off to the needy of the city of Detroit. Or maybe I should tell that to the hundreds of my classmates who went to grade schools in the area to help autistic children. Or maybe I should tell that to the thosands of religous charities which funnel hundreds of thosands of dollars to people around the world who need it. Or maybe I should tell all of this to Mother Teresa or Ghandi.

Until you have done these things, you have no right to be so incredibly disresepctful to religous people around the world. The good, kind, religous majority(all religons, Chrisitan, Muslim, Buddist, Hindu) has done more for this world then any single organization could possibly ever hope to accomplsih.

christian missionaries should stay out of africa. because they have their own culture and your trying to force a bible down their throats. he helps build a school that in turn helps the church by adding members by preaching in that school.
EDIT: wow guys lets get this back on the topic, this is sounding like another religeous thread.

Re: Pope offendes muslims

so what if he did, the muslim faith can be attacked after all its just a way of thinking and we are can attack it.
people treat offense to religion as badly as racism, this is just stupid.

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Difficult to say much about this without knowing more about the speech. Just taking a few words out of context and getting all angry about them doesn't make sense. That's more like the "Jehova"-scene in "the Life of Brian".

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I think both are in the wrong. The pope shouldn't have offended muslims, and muslims shouldn't overeact like this. If you are a high ranking religious figure, and you say something like this you are asking for trouble. But you are also asking for trouble if you hold up signs saying all non-muslims should be beheaded.

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I'm fairly sure the Pope is Catholic.

Religion is the number one cause of problems. It doesn't bring peace, it brings war. This doesn't just apply to Muslim beliefs either, lots of other religions are to blame.

All strong religious people overeact, simple as that.

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The fact that the pope made a reference like this is quite interesting. Has the Vatican’s passive stance finally stalled? The quote for which he is being demonized for is actually quite an accurate observation pertaining to the Islamic beliefs.

“Spread by the sword.”

Is the pope jealous that they can do it, and Christians and Catholics can not. hehe

Christianity, Catholicism and whatever else is no better and no worse then Islamic belief in my opinion, they are both bringers of trouble in any event.

Whatever minor help these beliefs accomplished on the ethical side, has long since been overshadowed by the damage they have done to clear and honest thinking.

Someone mentioned building a school in Africa or god knows where, and it was pointed out that the help the church provided was for problems the church created. That is so true.

The Christians and Catholics of America and similar countries weld much worse weapons then simple mobs with firearms and moltovcocktails. For they use politics, corporations, moral legislation, personal degradation and many, many other avenues as weapons.

Why is it that a religious title like priest is almost synonymous with child molestation? Because it was consciously overlooked and neglected for so long, it earned that right.

Re: Pope offendes muslims

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Originally Posted by Rob™

I agree. I think everyones getting a little over sensitve with religion these days. In the paper here all the time there is always something about muslims or other religions complaining about something these days.

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“Spread by the sword.”

Mahomed just said loud what the christians were thinking (and what they did). This is just one side trying to show that it is better than the other in this constant war of religions which consists at getting the most people following what you say.

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Originally Posted by Aeroflotte

Is this going to be a christians > muslims thread?

Nope. People forget - People use this strategy because it WORKS. Riot, blow up cars, assassinate people, ect - people will obey you. Just like the Spanish voters and the Danish newspapers.

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We have tried, and failed at secular attempts to fix africa for the past 50 or so years. Give relgion a chance down there. Yeah, we are shoving it down their throats, but they need morals.

I think both sides are to blame for this. The pope is to blame for quoting the guy in the first place. The last pope would have not even conciered saying something along the lines that this one did.

The muslims are to blame for going crazy over a 600 year old quote from a long dead person.

Both faiths have strayed way too far from their roots.